{"id":12275,"date":"2019-05-21T08:45:17","date_gmt":"2019-05-21T12:45:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=12275"},"modified":"2019-05-21T08:45:17","modified_gmt":"2019-05-21T12:45:17","slug":"episode-321-nina-bunjevac","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-321-nina-bunjevac","title":{"rendered":"Episode 321 &#8211; Nina Bunjevac"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show 321:<br \/>\nNina Bunjevac returns!<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1284\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-12275-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=12275-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Making art is like an alchemical process for me. I want to take shit and make gold out of it, metaphorically speaking.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/nina2019compB-e1558442302102.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12277\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-321-nina-bunjevac\/nina2019compb\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/nina2019compB-e1558442302102.jpg?fit=2452%2C720\" data-orig-size=\"2452,720\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"nina2019compB\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/nina2019compB-e1558442302102.jpg?fit=525%2C154\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-12277\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/nina2019compB.jpg?resize=525%2C154\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"154\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fantagraphics.com\/bezimena\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12278\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-321-nina-bunjevac\/bezimena-cover\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/bezimena-cover.jpg?fit=800%2C1005\" data-orig-size=\"800,1005\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"bezimena-cover\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/bezimena-cover.jpg?fit=494%2C620\" class=\"alignright wp-image-12278 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/bezimena-cover.jpg?resize=350%2C440\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/bezimena-cover.jpg?resize=350%2C440 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/bezimena-cover.jpg?resize=768%2C965 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/bezimena-cover.jpg?resize=494%2C620 494w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/bezimena-cover.jpg?w=800 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a>Back from her Fool&#8217;s Journey in France, <a href=\"http:\/\/ninabunjevac.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nina Bunjevac<\/a> returns to the show to celebrate her new book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1683962095\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1683962095&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=410cf1c89c649777f12954a4507a4b32\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bezimena<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1683962095\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (Fantagraphics)! We talk about the graphic novel&#8217;s unique and weird structure, Nina&#8217;s abrupt decision to leave France and come back to Toronto after a year-long study of France&#8217;s BD publishing industry, and her upcoming tarot project and her explorations into the history of occult mysticism and esoteric philosophy. Along the way, we also get into fixing the financial model for comics-makers, the value of big publishers, her growth as a writer, how <em>Bezimena<\/em> helped her address past episodes of sexual assault, her joy that Canada legalized weed while she was away, the story of her collaboration with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/40524719-fiaba-bianca\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Antonio Moresco<\/a>, how to make an Alchemical Kitchen, and plenty more! <em>BONUS: I explain how to tip the housekeeping staff at hotels!<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a>\u00a0(our 2014 podcast is <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-times-bomb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">over here<\/a>) And go buy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1683962095\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1683962095&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=410cf1c89c649777f12954a4507a4b32\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bezimena<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1683962095\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I like small, intimate bookshops that smell like books, not yoga equipment.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/8CteN207HYQ\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I treat tarot the same way I treat my dreams, as symbolism.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/0zDbZzDVMVWtw0Sf8yDTXq\" width=\"300\" height=\"380\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I realized that my approach to writing is very poetic, and I now approach writing as poetry.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/embed\/player\/t131177288\/\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_321_-_Nina_Bunjevac.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes!<\/p>\n<p>Lots of ways to follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em>! <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/vmspod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCXoLbP-9GbhHJZpCQP5TR5A\/videos?view_as=subscriber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">TuneIn<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Nina-Bunjevac-650035295086628\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nina Bunjevac<\/a> is best known for her internationally acclaimed books <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1894994647\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1894994647&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=77f46dfdb60eef88ca0956c5932560f7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Heartless<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1894994647\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (2012) and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1631490311\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1631490311&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=a70def947e45c92f3611cac6f9bdff3d\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fatherland: A Family History<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1631490311\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (2014). She lives in Toronto where she draws and teaches. Her new book is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1683962095\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1683962095&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=410cf1c89c649777f12954a4507a4b32\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bezimena<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1683962095\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12276\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-321-nina-bunjevac\/72f3839e-825f-431b-9314-75b2de745b53\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?fit=1280%2C1280\" data-orig-size=\"1280,1280\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1557756784&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?fit=525%2C525\" class=\"alignright size-large wp-image-12276\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?resize=525%2C525\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?resize=620%2C620 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?resize=170%2C170 170w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?resize=440%2C440 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?resize=768%2C768 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?resize=100%2C100 100w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?w=1280 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/72F3839E-825F-431B-9314-75B2DE745B53.jpg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Fella<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/may4th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hal Mayforth<\/a>, used with permission from\u00a0the artist. The conversation was recorded at a Marriott in Toronto on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=URDAV7Z2QAHX4UAB\">Blue enCORE 200 Microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4WKYIFHCCL6N44BR\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> digital recorder. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000SOYOTQ\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000SOYOTQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=04f89e1b44161aff17be7ee9479f6d64\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000SOYOTQ\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004MQSV04\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B004MQSV04&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=1a177654d0c55797588bc43949ef369e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cloudlifter CL-1<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B004MQSV04\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003VZG550\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B003VZG550&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=M2DKYCZ52E6ZFUA3\">Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2&#215;2 USB Recording Interface<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VZG550\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. All processing and editing done in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00DRPVEUK\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00DRPVEUK&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=902a694e24a241f7cee18f483a6ce2dd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Adobe Audition CC<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00DRPVEUK\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Photos of Nina by me. It&#8217;s on my <a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show 321: Nina Bunjevac returns! &#8220;Making art is like an alchemical process for me. I want to take shit and make gold out of it, metaphorically speaking.&#8221; Back from her Fool&#8217;s Journey in France, Nina Bunjevac returns to the show to celebrate her new book, Bezimena (Fantagraphics)! 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