{"id":12312,"date":"2019-06-09T20:47:23","date_gmt":"2019-06-10T00:47:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=12312"},"modified":"2019-06-11T13:33:09","modified_gmt":"2019-06-11T17:33:09","slug":"episode-324-bill-griffith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-324-bill-griffith","title":{"rendered":"Episode 324 &#8211; Bill Griffith"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show 324:<br \/>\nBill Griffith Returns!<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_9363\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-12312-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=12312-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I remember coming back from that first viewing of Freaks to my Brooklyn apartment and thinking, &#8216;I have to make art out of this somehow, but I don&#8217;t know how.'&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abramsbooks.com\/product\/nobodys-fool_9781419735011\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12314\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-324-bill-griffith\/nobodys-fool-bill-griffith-the-life-and-times-of-schlitzie-the-pinhead\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Nobodys-Fool-Bill-Griffith-The-Life-and-Times-of-Schlitzie-the-Pinhead.jpg?fit=800%2C1000\" data-orig-size=\"800,1000\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Nobodys-Fool-Bill-Griffith-The-Life-and-Times-of-Schlitzie-the-Pinhead\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Nobodys-Fool-Bill-Griffith-The-Life-and-Times-of-Schlitzie-the-Pinhead.jpg?fit=496%2C620\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-12314\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Nobodys-Fool-Bill-Griffith-The-Life-and-Times-of-Schlitzie-the-Pinhead.jpg?resize=352%2C440\" alt=\"\" width=\"352\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Nobodys-Fool-Bill-Griffith-The-Life-and-Times-of-Schlitzie-the-Pinhead.jpg?resize=352%2C440 352w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Nobodys-Fool-Bill-Griffith-The-Life-and-Times-of-Schlitzie-the-Pinhead.jpg?resize=768%2C960 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Nobodys-Fool-Bill-Griffith-The-Life-and-Times-of-Schlitzie-the-Pinhead.jpg?resize=496%2C620 496w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Nobodys-Fool-Bill-Griffith-The-Life-and-Times-of-Schlitzie-the-Pinhead.jpg?w=800 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 352px) 100vw, 352px\" \/><\/a>Who can top the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606998951\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606998951&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=a756db93850681f80cf362a84e898553\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">memoir of his mother&#8217;s infidelity<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606998951\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> with the biography of a sideshow pinhead? Legendary cartoonist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zippythepinhead.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bill Griffith<\/a>, that&#8217;s who! Bill rejoins the show to talk about his new graphic biography, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1419735012\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1419735012&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=d0c6c44db9a48ad6cf1cf265856429d2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nobody&#8217;s Fool: The Life and Times of Schlitzie the Pinhead<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1419735012\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (Abrams ComicArts), the empty nest syndrome that led him to dive into it right after finishing his first longform book, the challenges of separating fact from fiction in Schlitzie&#8217;s life, and how a 1963 viewing of Tod Browning&#8217;s movie <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0022913\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Freaks<\/a> changed Bill&#8217;s life forever and led him to create <em>Zippy The Pinhead<\/em>. We also get into Bill avoidance of cheap sentiment in the process of humanizing Schlitzie, the familial support network of sideshow folk, the decision by circus-owners to present to Schlitzie on stage as female, and how to answer the crucial question of whether sideshow work was exploitative. Along the way, we also get into Bill&#8217;s comics-making lessons, why <em>Zippy<\/em> is more about word-play (or word-jazz) than absurdity and non sequiturs, how that strip&#8217;s long stories fed into Bill&#8217;s book-length work, the biography of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606993615\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606993615&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=017ed6dcf3328e150339b7dcf3db3d2d\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nancy<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606993615\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> cartoonist Ernie Bushmiller he&#8217;s working on next (and why he&#8217;d like to do fiction for his 4th book), the riddle of his middle-of-the-night Post-Its, his dad&#8217;s very odd idea about keeping his son off skid row, and more! <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a> And go buy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1419735012\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1419735012&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=d0c6c44db9a48ad6cf1cf265856429d2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nobody&#8217;s Fool: The Life and Times of Schlitzie the Pinhead<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1419735012\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>!<\/p>\n<p><em>(And maybe check out our <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-138-bill-griffith\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2015 double-episode<\/a>?)<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Art with a capital A is about self-expression; Comics with a capital C is about communication.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fZfpNxl5Bbw\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Zippy speaks a little like he&#8217;s playing a musical instrument.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed-podcast\/episode\/3CCGFkqpDM2Pxpk5bvXQ63\" width=\"100%\" height=\"232\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I guess I&#8217;m a late-life graphic novelist.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/embed\/player\/t131623969\/\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_324_-_Bill_Griffith.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes!<\/p>\n<p>Lots of ways to follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em>! <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/vmspod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCXoLbP-9GbhHJZpCQP5TR5A\/videos?view_as=subscriber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">TuneIn<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bill Griffith is the creator of the syndicated daily comic strip <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zippythepinhead.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zippy<\/a>. Griffith\u2019s prolific output has been included in such publications as the <em>Village Voice, National Lampoon<\/em>, and the <em>New Yorker<\/em>. According to Bartlett, Griffith coined the popular phrase \u201cAre we having fun yet?\u201d He lives in Hadlyme, CT, and also Dingburg. His new book is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1419735012\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1419735012&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=d0c6c44db9a48ad6cf1cf265856429d2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nobody&#8217;s Fool: The Life and Times of Schlitzie the Pinhead<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1419735012\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.zippythepinhead.com\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12315\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-324-bill-griffith\/img_2151\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?fit=1280%2C1280\" data-orig-size=\"1280,1280\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1557596914&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.016666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_2151\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?fit=525%2C525\" class=\"alignright wp-image-12315 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?resize=525%2C525\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?resize=620%2C620 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?resize=170%2C170 170w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?resize=440%2C440 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?resize=768%2C768 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?resize=100%2C100 100w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?w=1280 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_2151.jpg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Fella<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/may4th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hal Mayforth<\/a>, used with permission from\u00a0the artist. The conversation was recorded at a Marriott in Toronto on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=URDAV7Z2QAHX4UAB\">Blue enCORE 200 Microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4WKYIFHCCL6N44BR\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> digital recorder. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000SOYOTQ\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000SOYOTQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=04f89e1b44161aff17be7ee9479f6d64\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000SOYOTQ\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004MQSV04\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B004MQSV04&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=1a177654d0c55797588bc43949ef369e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cloudlifter CL-1<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B004MQSV04\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003VZG550\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B003VZG550&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=M2DKYCZ52E6ZFUA3\">Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2&#215;2 USB Recording Interface<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VZG550\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. All processing and editing done in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00DRPVEUK\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00DRPVEUK&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=902a694e24a241f7cee18f483a6ce2dd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Adobe Audition CC<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00DRPVEUK\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Photo of Mr. Griffith by me. It&#8217;s on my <a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show 324: Bill Griffith Returns! &#8220;I remember coming back from that first viewing of Freaks to my Brooklyn apartment and thinking, &#8216;I have to make art out of this somehow, but I don&#8217;t know how.&#8217;&#8221; Who can top the memoir of his mother&#8217;s infidelity with the biography of a sideshow pinhead? 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