{"id":12420,"date":"2019-08-12T19:06:51","date_gmt":"2019-08-12T23:06:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=12420"},"modified":"2019-08-12T19:06:51","modified_gmt":"2019-08-12T23:06:51","slug":"episode-332-christopher-brown","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-332-christopher-brown","title":{"rendered":"Episode 332 &#8211; Christopher Brown"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show 332:<br \/>\nChristopher Brown<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1079\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-12420-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=12420-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;If you want to have a healthy society, people need to believe there is justice and accountability for people who do bad things. The problem in this society is that it&#8217;s a really bottom-heavy system.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/christopherbrown.com\/rule-of-capture\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12423\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-332-christopher-brown\/ruleofcapture-pb-hi-res-finaltestweb\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/RuleOfCapture-PB-hi-res-finalTESTWEB.jpg?fit=600%2C903\" data-orig-size=\"600,903\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"RuleOfCapture-PB-hi-res-finalTESTWEB\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/RuleOfCapture-PB-hi-res-finalTESTWEB.jpg?fit=412%2C620\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-12423\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/RuleOfCapture-PB-hi-res-finalTESTWEB.jpg?resize=292%2C440\" alt=\"\" width=\"292\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/RuleOfCapture-PB-hi-res-finalTESTWEB.jpg?resize=292%2C440 292w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/RuleOfCapture-PB-hi-res-finalTESTWEB.jpg?resize=412%2C620 412w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/RuleOfCapture-PB-hi-res-finalTESTWEB.jpg?w=600 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 292px) 100vw, 292px\" \/><\/a>He wowed us <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-271-christopher-brown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">last year<\/a> with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0062563815\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0062563815&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=20930d2219490887bd26b1ecfbe5dd91\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tropic of Kansas<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0062563815\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, and now <a href=\"http:\/\/christopherbrown.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Christopher Brown<\/a> is back to talk about his brand-new dystopian legal thriller, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0062859099\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0062859099&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=74bcd31a7c20b917a1b6ec3cda4c5102\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rule of Capture<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0062859099\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (both from Harper Voyager)! We get into his grand jury stint a few years ago and how it brought home to him the inequality of the law and led to this new novel, why there are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tor.com\/2019\/08\/07\/will-there-be-justice-science-fiction-and-the-law\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">so few lawyers in science fiction<\/a> (but so many in comic books), and the challenge of writing a novel about the law as opposed the facts of a legal case. Along the way, we get into his search for utopia and why he&#8217;s eschewing dystopia with this next novel, the phenomenon of Texan billboard-lawyers (like his novel&#8217;s protagonist, Donny Kimoe), his love of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nj\u00e1ls_saga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Njals saga<\/em><\/a>, the Icelandic poem about a lawyer who&#8217;s ridiculed by other vikings because he can&#8217;t grow a beard, the little capitulations we make that lead to the domestication of evil, his unsung legal heroes, and what one should or shouldn&#8217;t do if one finds oneself on an escalator behind a certain Supreme Court Justice. <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a> And go buy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0062859099\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0062859099&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=74bcd31a7c20b917a1b6ec3cda4c5102\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rule of Capture<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0062859099\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>! (and check out <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-271-christopher-brown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">our 2018 episode<\/a>)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;This book provided me an opportunity to do things with the character of the lawyer that my evil lawyer twin might wish to do in real life.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/9uZK7gs-0DU\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I want to write a science fiction that&#8217;s made up from the material of the observed world, that has a kind of naturalism to it.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed-podcast\/episode\/64d4EFGIpQgdqLsDp6fIaT\" width=\"100%\" height=\"232\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;So many of our social, political, economic and other problems and injustices are rooted in the damaged relationship we have with the land.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/embed\/player\/t132862094\/\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;What astonishes me today, as someone who&#8217;s worked in Washington with people on both sides of aisle, is how malleable people&#8217;s principles are.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_332_-_Christopher_Brown.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes!<\/p>\n<p>Lots of ways to follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em>! 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Campbell Award for best science fiction novel of the year. His new novel <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0062859099\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0062859099&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=74bcd31a7c20b917a1b6ec3cda4c5102\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rule of Capture<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0062859099\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, the beginning of a series of speculative legal thrillers, is out now from Harper Voyager. He was a World Fantasy Award nominee for the anthology Three Messages and a Warning: Contemporary Mexican Short Stories of the Fantastic. His short fiction and criticism has appeared in a variety of magazines and anthologies, including <em>MIT Technology Review,<\/em> <em>LitHib, Tor.com<\/em>, and <em>The Baffler<\/em>. He lives in Austin, Texas, where he also practices law. He&#8217;s active on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nb_chris\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/instagram.com\/ebitdada\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>(There&#8217;s a more comprehensive version <a href=\"http:\/\/christopherbrown.com\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">at his website<\/a>.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Fella<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/may4th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hal Mayforth<\/a>, used with permission from\u00a0the artist. The conversation was recorded during Readercon at the Boston Marriott Quincy on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=URDAV7Z2QAHX4UAB\">Blue enCORE 200 Microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4WKYIFHCCL6N44BR\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> digital recorder. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000SOYOTQ\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000SOYOTQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=04f89e1b44161aff17be7ee9479f6d64\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000SOYOTQ\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004MQSV04\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B004MQSV04&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=1a177654d0c55797588bc43949ef369e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cloudlifter CL-1<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B004MQSV04\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003VZG550\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B003VZG550&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=M2DKYCZ52E6ZFUA3\">Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2&#215;2 USB Recording Interface<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VZG550\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. All processing and editing done in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00DRPVEUK\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00DRPVEUK&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=902a694e24a241f7cee18f483a6ce2dd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Adobe Audition CC<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00DRPVEUK\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Photo of Mr. Brown probably by Mr. Brown, so it&#8217;s not on my <a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show 332: Christopher Brown &#8220;If you want to have a healthy society, people need to believe there is justice and accountability for people who do bad things. 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