{"id":12940,"date":"2020-03-09T20:17:28","date_gmt":"2020-03-10T00:17:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=12940"},"modified":"2020-03-09T20:45:53","modified_gmt":"2020-03-10T00:45:53","slug":"episode-365-ben-katchor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-365-ben-katchor","title":{"rendered":"Episode 365 &#8211; Ben Katchor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Virtual Memories Show 365:<br \/>\nBen Katchor<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_5165\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-12940-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=12940-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;A dairy restaurant feels to me like an urban, walled Garden of Eden, but it&#8217;s in this world, so it gets trapped in the doings of this world.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/90039\/the-dairy-restaurant-by-ben-katchor\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12942\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-365-ben-katchor\/drcover\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/drcover.jpg?fit=599%2C900\" data-orig-size=\"599,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"drcover\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/drcover.jpg?fit=413%2C620\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-12942 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/drcover.jpg?resize=293%2C440\" alt=\"\" width=\"293\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/drcover.jpg?resize=293%2C440 293w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/drcover.jpg?resize=413%2C620 413w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/drcover.jpg?w=599 599w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 293px) 100vw, 293px\" \/><\/a>The great cartoonist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.katchor.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ben Katchor<\/a> rejoins the show to talk about his brand-new book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0805242198\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0805242198&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=081d01c446346837f5b9c30258aa3702\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Dairy Restaurant<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0805242198\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"> (Schocken), a 500-page illustrated history of, um, dairy restaurants! We get into what drew him to the milekhdike personality, the remnants of Eastern European Jewish culture that call to him, why this book had to be prose-with-pictures rather than comics, the decades of research and interviews he conducted, and why these restaurants came to represent the history of how Jews moved away from their parents&#8217; professions. We also discuss just what went wrong with the world, why his favorite books are old Chicago Yellow Pages directories, why just studying Jewish history can constitute a sort of Judaism, his fascination with interwar Warsaw, his plea for a controlled economy, and why <em>The Dairy Restaurant<\/em> had to begin in the Garden of Eden. <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Give it a listen<\/a> <em>(and check out our past conversations from <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-visible-cities\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">2013<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-191-ben-katchor\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">2016<\/a>)!<\/em> And go buy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0805242198\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0805242198&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=081d01c446346837f5b9c30258aa3702\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Dairy Restaurant<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0805242198\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Text is about time, and pictures are about space.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3dJWZqJ8ixQ\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8216;I miss the restaurants I never went to.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed-podcast\/episode\/3h520snH7jxWyFj3zzQvRD\" width=\"100%\" height=\"232\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think everybody for a few moments should think about everything they know, and say, &#8216;What do I know about it and how does it impinge on my life?'&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/embed\/player\/t139694425\/\" style=\"width:100%; height:100px;\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_365_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>&nbsp;Then check out&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the archives<\/a>&nbsp;for more great episodes!<\/p>\n<p>Lots of ways to follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em>! <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/vmspod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCXoLbP-9GbhHJZpCQP5TR5A\/videos?view_as=subscriber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TuneIn<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12943\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-365-ben-katchor\/img_3769\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?fit=1280%2C1280\" data-orig-size=\"1280,1280\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.2&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1581021648&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;2.87&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.020408163265306&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_3769\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?fit=525%2C525\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-12943\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?resize=525%2C525\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?resize=620%2C620 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?resize=440%2C440 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?resize=170%2C170 170w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?resize=768%2C768 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?resize=100%2C100 100w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?w=1280 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3769.jpeg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/benkatchor\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ben Katchor<\/a> is the author of, among other books, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0316482943\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0316482943&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=78c3475b07ce3a1f1f255072b604c2c4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Julius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0316482943\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0375421149\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0375421149&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=2ad3d0c5094e4da9d6f3aa3dd61f3a3c\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Cardboard Valise<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0375421149\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0307906906\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0307906906&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=ea1777f82cf8aaaae215ce356111a4c7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Hand-Drying in America: And Other Stories<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0307906906\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">; and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0375700978\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0375700978&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=6de64f39546c66450cfc8a5bdc8cac43\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Jew of New York<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0375700978\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">. He was the first cartoonist to receive a MacArthur Fellowship. He teaches at Parsons\/The New School in New York City. His new book is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0805242198\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0805242198&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=081d01c446346837f5b9c30258aa3702\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Dairy Restaurant<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0805242198\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">.<\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Fella<em>&nbsp;by <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/may4th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Hal Mayforth<\/a>, used with permission from&nbsp;the artist. The conversation was recorded at Parsons on a pair of&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=URDAV7Z2QAHX4UAB\">Blue enCORE 200 Microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4WKYIFHCCL6N44BR\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"> digital recorder. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000SOYOTQ\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000SOYOTQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=04f89e1b44161aff17be7ee9479f6d64\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000SOYOTQ\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004MQSV04\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B004MQSV04&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=1a177654d0c55797588bc43949ef369e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cloudlifter CL-1<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B004MQSV04\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"> and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003VZG550\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B003VZG550&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=M2DKYCZ52E6ZFUA3\">Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2&#215;2 USB Recording Interface<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VZG550\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">. All processing and editing done in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00DRPVEUK\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00DRPVEUK&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=902a694e24a241f7cee18f483a6ce2dd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Adobe Audition CC<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00DRPVEUK\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">. Photos of Ben Katchor by me. It&#8217;s on my <a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show 365: Ben Katchor &#8220;A dairy restaurant feels to me like an urban, walled Garden of Eden, but it&#8217;s in this world, so it gets trapped in the doings of this world.&#8221; The great cartoonist Ben Katchor rejoins the show to talk about his brand-new book, The Dairy Restaurant (Schocken), a 500-page illustrated &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-365-ben-katchor\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Episode 365 &#8211; Ben Katchor&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":12941,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"audio","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[25,22,27,1028,3167,26,4,1183,17,18,20,3,19],"tags":[5963,1629,251,1324,885,1565,1981,5964],"class_list":["post-12940","post","type-post","status-publish","format-audio","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-architecture","category-art","category-big-business","category-chicago","category-coffee","category-comics","category-literature","category-podcasts","category-politics-explicit","category-politics-implicit","category-religion","category-suburbs","category-urban-issues","tag-alan-m-wald","tag-alexander-theroux","tag-ben-katchor","tag-fran-lebowitz","tag-isaac-bashevis-singer","tag-poussin","tag-rachel-carson","tag-sholem-aleichem","post_format-post-format-audio"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchor2020comp.jpg?fit=1881%2C800","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4C7K-3mI","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":9962,"url":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-191-ben-katchor","url_meta":{"origin":12940,"position":0},"title":"Episode 191 &#8211; Ben Katchor","author":"Gil","date":"October 26, 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"Virtual Memories Show #191: Ben Katchor \"How can you keep experimenting within your own work? 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