{"id":13634,"date":"2020-07-07T09:26:30","date_gmt":"2020-07-07T13:26:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=13634"},"modified":"2020-07-09T11:41:11","modified_gmt":"2020-07-09T15:41:11","slug":"episode-381-zena-hitz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-381-zena-hitz","title":{"rendered":"Episode 381 &#8211; Zena Hitz"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Virtual Memories Show 381:<br \/>\nZena Hitz<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_4153\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-13634-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3\">https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=13634-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The forms of learning for its own sake that happen in ordinary life are more fundamental than the professional versions.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/press.princeton.edu\/books\/hardcover\/9780691178714\/lost-in-thought\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"13636\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-381-zena-hitz\/attachment\/9780691178714\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780691178714.jpg?fit=640%2C989\" data-orig-size=\"640,989\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"9780691178714\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780691178714.jpg?fit=401%2C620\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-13636\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780691178714.jpg?resize=285%2C440\" alt=\"\" width=\"285\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780691178714.jpg?resize=285%2C440 285w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780691178714.jpg?resize=401%2C620 401w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780691178714.jpg?w=640 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 285px) 100vw, 285px\" \/><\/a>Author &amp; <a href=\"https:\/\/sjc.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">St. John&#8217;s College<\/a> tutor <a href=\"https:\/\/zenahitz.net\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Zena Hitz<\/a> joins the show to talk about her wonderful new book, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780691178714\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lost in Thought: The Hidden Pleasures of an Intellectual Life<\/a> (Princeton University Press). We get into the nature of learning for its own sake, the corruption of academia and its potential reform, how St. John&#8217;s prepared us for the world by not preparing us, and why the Newton&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780520290747\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Principia<\/a> is the toughest thing on the SJC curriculum. We also talk about the joy of autodidacts and our shared love of <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781590171332\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Peregrine<\/a>, why she disagrees with the notion that learning-for-its-own-sake is a privilege of the elite, the challenges of leading seminars by Zoom, and how bureaucracy creeps into every system. We also tackle my lightning round of questions for SJC tutors, what she&#8217;d add to the curriculum and what she&#8217;d subtract, and answer the <em>long<\/em>-standing question: What is virtue and can it be taught? <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Give it a listen!<\/a> And go read <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780691178714\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lost in Thought: The Hidden Pleasures of an Intellectual Life<\/a>!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;St. John&#8217;s is a different place. It has different values, and you don&#8217;t want the rest of the world to be like that, but it changes the way you interact with the world.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Kq8MAoH6zq8\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Casual interaction really matters. During the pandemic, it&#8217;s a burden to have everything be done with real intention: &#8216;Who would I like to see, who would I like to talk to?'&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed-podcast\/episode\/6uoGzWlKufpk3vUe02WXoe\" width=\"100%\" height=\"232\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Sometimes young people don&#8217;t get that these books are real. That what Thucydides wrote about was what he lived through. They don&#8217;t always understand the books are about life.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/embed\/player\/t152736889\/\" style=\"width:100%; height:100px;\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_381_-_Zena_Hitz.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>&nbsp;Then check out&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the archives<\/a>&nbsp;for more great episodes!<\/p>\n<p>Lots of ways to follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em>! <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/vmspod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCXoLbP-9GbhHJZpCQP5TR5A\/videos?view_as=subscriber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TuneIn<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Zena Hitz is a Tutor in the great books program at St. John&#8217;s College in Annapolis, MD. She has a Ph.D. in ancient philosophy from Princeton University and studies and teaches across the liberal arts. Her new book is <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780691178714\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lost in Thought: The Hidden Pleasures of an Intellectual Life<\/a>, from Princeton University Press.<\/p>\n<p>Follow Zena on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/zenahitz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Twitter<\/a>. There&#8217;s a <a href=\"https:\/\/zenahitz.net\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">more extensive bio at her site<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Fella<em>&nbsp;by <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/may4th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Hal Mayforth<\/a>, used with permission from&nbsp;the artist. The conversation was recorded remotely via <a href=\"https:\/\/zencastr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Zencastr<\/a>. I used a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000SOYOTQ\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000SOYOTQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=04f89e1b44161aff17be7ee9479f6d64\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000SOYOTQ\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004MQSV04\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B004MQSV04&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=1a177654d0c55797588bc43949ef369e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cloudlifter CL-1<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B004MQSV04\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"> and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003VZG550\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B003VZG550&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=M2DKYCZ52E6ZFUA3\">Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2&#215;2 USB Recording Interface<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VZG550\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">. All processing and editing done in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00DRPVEUK\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00DRPVEUK&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=902a694e24a241f7cee18f483a6ce2dd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Adobe Audition CC<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00DRPVEUK\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">. Photo of Zena by someone else. It&#8217;s on my <a href=\"https:\/\/instagram.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show 381: Zena Hitz &#8220;The forms of learning for its own sake that happen in ordinary life are more fundamental than the professional versions.&#8221; Author &amp; St. John&#8217;s College tutor Zena Hitz joins the show to talk about her wonderful new book, Lost in Thought: The Hidden Pleasures of an Intellectual Life (Princeton &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-381-zena-hitz\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Episode 381 &#8211; Zena Hitz&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":13635,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"audio","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[22,27,5981,4,40,1183,18,20],"tags":[5842,6070,4975,2836,1449,76,6069],"class_list":["post-13634","post","type-post","status-publish","format-audio","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-art","category-big-business","category-covid-check-in","category-literature","category-music","category-podcasts","category-politics-implicit","category-religion","tag-frederick-douglass","tag-isaac-newton","tag-ja-baker","tag-jonathan-rose","tag-kant","tag-st-johns-college","tag-zena-hitz","post_format-post-format-audio"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/zenahitzcomp.jpg?fit=1269%2C800","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4C7K-3xU","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":14683,"url":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-449-scott-newstok","url_meta":{"origin":13634,"position":0},"title":"Episode 449 &#8211; Scott Newstok","author":"Gil","date":"August 24, 2021","format":"audio","excerpt":"Virtual Memories Show 449: Scott Newstok \"Let's try to think our way into what we value about learning in our lives, in whatever realm: a craft, a sport, a musical activity. 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