{"id":14961,"date":"2021-12-28T10:02:32","date_gmt":"2021-12-28T15:02:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=14961"},"modified":"2021-12-29T08:04:48","modified_gmt":"2021-12-29T13:04:48","slug":"episode-466-gil-roth-and-aaron-finkelstein","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-466-gil-roth-and-aaron-finkelstein","title":{"rendered":"Episode 466 – Gil Roth and Aaron Finkelstein"},"content":{"rendered":"

Virtual Memories Show 466:
\nGil Roth and Aaron Finkelstein<\/a><\/p>\n

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“Once you start stripping away the things you were using to distract yourself, and you’re stuck with what’s left, you see what really matters & what you reinvent to start distracting yourself again.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\"\"<\/a>Our final guest of the year is . . . me! I invited my long<\/em>-time pal Aaron Finkelstein<\/a> to interview me as we close out 2021. We talk about my newfound sense of mortality and the invention of new distractions, what I’ve learned from doing remote podcasts during the pandemic, the ways repeat guests & I have changed over the years, why I avoid trying to do podcasts with “personalities” (as opposed to people), and the one person Aaron really<\/em> wants me to record with. We get into making art, how I learned to love destruction (by which I mean drawing on paper and not a computer), what it means to commit to a line, and how drawing may actually be my way of undermining other artistic pursuits. I also tell a bunch of anecdotes about guests and a set of stories about the Society of Illustrators<\/a>, and we discuss the culture of Like, my desire to slow things down, the advice I tried to give Graydon Carter<\/a>, and my suspicion that you’re all bots, among a bazillion other topics. Give it a listen!<\/a><\/p>\n

“It took forever to get over the fear that the mark we leave behind is the wrong one.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n