{"id":15647,"date":"2022-11-11T14:46:47","date_gmt":"2022-11-11T19:46:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=15647"},"modified":"2022-11-11T14:46:50","modified_gmt":"2022-11-11T19:46:50","slug":"episode-512-michael-lesy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-512-michael-lesy","title":{"rendered":"Episode 512 &#8211; Michael Lesy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show 512:<br \/>\nMichael Lesy<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1257\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-15647-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3\">https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=15647-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Wisconsin Death Trip was a holocaust without Jews. It was a shitstorm. And if you don&#8217;t acknowledge the shitstorm, you&#8217;re not entirely alive. Walker understood that.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780922233526\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15650\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-512-michael-lesy\/lesyevanscover-1704x2048\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?fit=1704%2C2048\" data-orig-size=\"1704,2048\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"LesyEvansCover-1704&amp;#215;2048\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?fit=516%2C620\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-15650\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?resize=366%2C440\" alt=\"\" width=\"366\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?resize=366%2C440 366w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?resize=516%2C620 516w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?resize=768%2C923 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?resize=1278%2C1536 1278w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?w=1704 1704w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?w=1050 1050w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/LesyEvansCover-1704x2048-1.jpg?w=1575 1575w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 366px) 100vw, 366px\" \/><\/a>Photographic historian &amp; writer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hampshire.edu\/academics\/faculty\/michael-lesy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Michael Lesy<\/a> joins the show to celebrate his amazing new book, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780922233526\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">WALKER EVANS: LAST PHOTOGRAPHS &amp; LIFE STORIES<\/a> (Blast Books). We get into his friendship with Evans &amp; their shared interest in Lyrical Documentary, why Evans&#8217; last photos were dismissed by academics (even though they are, in fact, amazing), what he learned from writing a mini-biography of Evans for the book, how Evans returned to one of his first cameras \u2014 the Polaroid SX-70 \u2014 in his last year, and what Michael felt seeing his late wife among the final portraits Evans shot. We also get into Michael&#8217;s ~50-year career from <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wisconsin_Death_Trip\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wisconsin Death Trip<\/a> to now, how reading the Russians \u2014 especially Turgenev \u2014 turned him into a writer, how he feels about everyone taking pictures on their phones, and the importance of understanding photo history. Plus, we discuss how he taught Literary Journalism at my alma mater, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hampshire.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hampshire College<\/a>, for ~30 years, the audition test he gave his students so they could write their way into his class, why students became much more frail over the decades, and a LOT more. <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a> And go read <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780922233526\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Walker Evans: Last Photographs &amp; Life Stories<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15651\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-512-michael-lesy\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?fit=2048%2C1244\" data-orig-size=\"2048,1244\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"9780922233526_005_iart-2048&amp;#215;1244\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?fit=525%2C319\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15651\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=525%2C319\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"319\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=620%2C377 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=440%2C267 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=768%2C467 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=1536%2C933 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?w=2048 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_005_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15654\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-512-michael-lesy\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?fit=2048%2C1244\" data-orig-size=\"2048,1244\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"9780922233526_006_iart-2048&amp;#215;1244\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?fit=525%2C319\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15654\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=525%2C319\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"319\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=620%2C377 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=440%2C267 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=768%2C467 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?resize=1536%2C933 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?w=2048 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/9780922233526_006_iart-2048x1244-1.jpg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;If you can&#8217;t fall down the rabbit hole of a photograph, then you&#8217;re just a sterile academic, moving chess pieces around.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/GsRZgnY_qWQ\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The difference between being looked at &amp; being seen is the difference between wanting &amp; needing. The way that you teach writing is to teach needing. But students are better acquainted with wanting.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; background: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/episode-512-michael-lesy\/id531173075?i=1000585904918\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Literary journalism is storytelling, but you pay attention to the truth.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border-radius: 12px;\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/7HuQUJaosmkOWvyboXpDY5?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I told my students they had to find a reader. And I told them, &#8216;A reader is not someone you sleep with. A reader is someone who has no stake in you, except they&#8217;re willing to listen to prose and tell you.'&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_512_-_Michael_Lesy.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes!<\/p>\n<p>Lots of ways to follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em>! <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/vmspod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCXoLbP-9GbhHJZpCQP5TR5A\/videos?view_as=subscriber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">TuneIn<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Michael Lesy is one of America&#8217;s leading photographic scholars. His books include <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780826321930\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wisconsin Death Trip<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780922233502\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Snapshots 1971-77<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780393330595\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Murder City<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/books.org\/books\/angels-world-the-new-york-photographs-of-angelo-rizzuto\/michael-lesy\/9780393061116\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Angel&#8217;s World<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780393049435\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Long Time Coming: A Photographic Portrait of America, 1935-1943<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780393239737\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Looking Backward: A Photographic Portrait of the World at the Beginning of the Twentieth Century<\/a>. In 2007, the United States Artists Foundation named Professor Lesy its first Simon Fellow, and in 2013 he was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship for Photography Studies. He lives in Amherst, Massachusetts, and is professor emeritus of literary journalism at Hampshire College.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15649\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-512-michael-lesy\/img_7777\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C1920\" data-orig-size=\"2560,1920\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.2&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1667987844&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;2.87&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;640&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.066666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_7777\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg?fit=525%2C394\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15649\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777.jpeg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg?resize=620%2C465 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg?resize=440%2C330 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_7777-scaled.jpeg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Fella<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/may4th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hal Mayforth<\/a>, used with permission from\u00a0the artist. The conversation was recorded at Michael&#8217;s home on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Rvj3R6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Blue enCORE 200<\/a> microphones feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Q9Br0z\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zoom PodTrak P4<\/a> digital recorder &amp; interface. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3cGZ1Em\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Q9Br0z\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zoom PodTrak P4<\/a>. All processing and editing done in <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3RwlQsW\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Adobe Audition CC<\/a>. Photos of Michael by me; the other stuff is by Walker Evans, from the book. It&#8217;s on my <a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show 512: Michael Lesy &#8220;The Wisconsin Death Trip was a holocaust without Jews. It was a shitstorm. And if you don&#8217;t acknowledge the shitstorm, you&#8217;re not entirely alive. 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