{"id":15832,"date":"2023-01-31T08:35:31","date_gmt":"2023-01-31T13:35:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=15832"},"modified":"2023-01-31T08:35:33","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T13:35:33","slug":"episode-524-thomas-woodruff","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-524-thomas-woodruff","title":{"rendered":"Episode 524 &#8211; Thomas Woodruff"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show 524: Thomas Woodruff<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_3171\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-15832-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3\">https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=15832-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;You have to say, &#8216;I&#8217;m going to do this, and I&#8217;m going to do it beautifully,&#8217; which is kind of a queer sensibility: I want ornaments on everything. It was a challenge and you need a lot of sharp pencils, but I would just go at it.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781683966494\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15833\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-524-thomas-woodruff\/cover-screenshot\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?fit=1408%2C1920\" data-orig-size=\"1408,1920\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"cover screenshot\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?fit=455%2C620\" class=\"alignright wp-image-15833\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?resize=280%2C382\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"382\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?resize=323%2C440 323w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?resize=455%2C620 455w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?resize=768%2C1047 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?resize=1126%2C1536 1126w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?w=1408 1408w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/cover-screenshot.png?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px\" \/><\/a>Artist and illustrator <a href=\"https:\/\/instagram.com\/misterthomaswoodruff\">Thomas Woodruff<\/a> joins the show to celebrate his amazing new graphic opera, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781683966494\">Francis Rothbart! The Tale of a Fastidious Feral<\/a> (Fantagraphics). We get into how Chris Ware&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9780375714542\"><em>Jimmy Corrigan<\/em><\/a> floored him and inspired him to make this 300-page extravaganza, what it was like to finally make a comic after decades of critiquing them in his role at the <a href=\"https:\/\/sva.edu\/faculty\/thomas-woodruff-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">School of Visual Arts<\/a>, and how living through the AIDS crisis forced an emotionalism into his art. We talk about the terrible glamour of his art, his predilection for making series of works (like his 365 paintings of apples and his ongoing series of apocalyptic, graceful <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vitoschnabel.com\/exhibitions\/thomas-woodruff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dinosaur paintings<\/a>), the virtues of carbon pencil and his hunt for the last supply of his favorite paper, and why he treats teaching drawing is like a religious rite. We also discuss his legacy vis-a-vis the students he taught and the programs he built, his philosophy of using the same model for a full year of drawing classes, the story of his first tattoo and the apotropaic act, the difference between having a sensibility vs. a style, why he retired from SVA after 20 years of chairing the Illustration and Cartooning departments, how students changed over that span, the mind-melting experience of watching <a href=\"https:\/\/nostalgiacentral.com\/television\/tv-by-decade\/tv-shows-1960s\/diver-dan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Diver Dan<\/a> as a child, The Next Project, and more! <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a> And go read <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781683966494\">Francis Rothbart! The Tale of a Fastidious Feral<\/a>!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;A drawing is a map of where the eye has been.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15838\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-524-thomas-woodruff\/screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6-53-33-am\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?fit=1882%2C2476\" data-orig-size=\"1882,2476\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Screenshot 2023-01-31 at 6.53.33 AM\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?fit=471%2C620\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15838\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?resize=471%2C620\" alt=\"\" width=\"471\" height=\"620\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?resize=471%2C620 471w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?resize=334%2C440 334w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?resize=768%2C1010 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?resize=1168%2C1536 1168w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?resize=1557%2C2048 1557w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?w=1882 1882w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.53.33-AM.png?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 471px) 100vw, 471px\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/X9HHmAK63GY\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m always amazed when someone refers to my art style, because I don&#8217;t think I have one. And if I thought I had one, I would probably change it.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; background: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/episode-524-thomas-woodruff\/id531173075?i=1000597405900\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Gay people of a certain age almost feel like they were raised by wolves, because their parents were not terribly accepting.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border-radius: 12px;\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/3CX30XV9w8V5XiuD4rz3Fw?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;You have to be very obsessive about art to have a career. Some people just want to have it because of a lifestyle.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15839\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-524-thomas-woodruff\/screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6-52-33-am\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?fit=1882%2C2572\" data-orig-size=\"1882,2572\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Screenshot 2023-01-31 at 6.52.33 AM\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?fit=454%2C620\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15839\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?resize=454%2C620\" alt=\"\" width=\"454\" height=\"620\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?resize=454%2C620 454w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?resize=322%2C440 322w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?resize=768%2C1050 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?resize=1124%2C1536 1124w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?resize=1499%2C2048 1499w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?w=1882 1882w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?w=1050 1050w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screenshot-2023-01-31-at-6.52.33-AM.png?w=1575 1575w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 454px) 100vw, 454px\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_524_-_Thomas_Woodruff.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I always say I&#8217;m kinda like the kid putting on a puppet show in his basement, except I don&#8217;t even want my parents to come down and see it.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Lots of ways to follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em>! <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/vmspod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCXoLbP-9GbhHJZpCQP5TR5A\/videos?view_as=subscriber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">TuneIn<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15835\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-524-thomas-woodruff\/img_9366\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C2287\" data-orig-size=\"2560,2287\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.2&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1674916491&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;2.87&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;320&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.018518518518519&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_9366\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg?fit=525%2C469\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15835\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366.jpeg?resize=525%2C469\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"469\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg?resize=620%2C554 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg?resize=440%2C393 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C686 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1372 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1829 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9366-scaled.jpeg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Mr. Thomas Woodruff is an artist who loves to draw and tell stories, and make lots and lots of pictures of lots of unusual things. His right hand has had a pencil or a crayon or a brush clenched in it from a precociously early age. Like any honorary member of the Corvidae family, Woodruff has always been attracted to shiny things. In his long, varied, and eccentric career he has had thirty one-person exhibitions of his paintings; cerated hundreds of illustrations for books, periodicals and television; designed for the opera; and curated gallery exhibitions. Woodruff is Chair Emeritus of the Illustration and Cartooning Departments at the School of Visual Arts, where he held the post for 20 years. He spends half of his time in New York City, and the other half in the Hudson Valley observing the weeds, sparrows, rabbits, and skunks.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781683966494\">Francis Rothbart!<\/a> Is his first work of comic art, and this &#8220;graphic opera&#8221; was seven years in the making.<\/p>\n<p>Follow Thomas on <a href=\"https:\/\/instagram.com\/misterthomaswoodruff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a> and at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vitoschnabel.com\/artists\/thomas-woodruff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Vito Schnabel Gallery<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15837\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-524-thomas-woodruff\/img_9346\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C1920\" data-orig-size=\"2560,1920\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1674915133&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;80&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0082644628099174&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_9346\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg?fit=525%2C394\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15837\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346.jpeg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg?resize=620%2C465 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg?resize=440%2C330 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9346-scaled.jpeg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15836\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-524-thomas-woodruff\/img_9369\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C2560\" data-orig-size=\"2560,2560\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1674918279&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;25&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0049019607843137&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_9369\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?fit=525%2C525\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15836\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369.jpeg?resize=525%2C525\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?resize=620%2C620 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?resize=440%2C440 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?resize=170%2C170 170w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C768 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1536 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C2048 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?resize=100%2C100 100w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_9369-scaled.jpeg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Fella<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/may4th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hal Mayforth<\/a>, used with permission from\u00a0the artist. The conversation was recorded at Mr. Woodruff&#8217;s studio on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Rvj3R6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Blue enCORE 200<\/a> microphones feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Q9Br0z\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zoom PodTrak P4<\/a> digital recorder &amp; interface. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3cGZ1Em\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Q9Br0z\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zoom PodTrak P4<\/a>. All processing and editing done in <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3RwlQsW\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Adobe Audition CC<\/a>. Photos of Mr. Woodruff by me. It&#8217;s on my <a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show 524: Thomas Woodruff &#8220;You have to say, &#8216;I&#8217;m going to do this, and I&#8217;m going to do it beautifully,&#8217; which is kind of a queer sensibility: I want ornaments on everything. 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