{"id":17859,"date":"2025-12-02T19:32:51","date_gmt":"2025-12-03T00:32:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=17859"},"modified":"2025-12-02T19:40:17","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T00:40:17","slug":"episode-665-prue-shaw","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-665-prue-shaw","title":{"rendered":"Episode 665 &#8211; Prue Shaw"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show 665:<br \/>\nPrue Shaw<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1814\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-17859-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3\">https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=17859-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I felt again incredulity that one person could have produced this poem.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781324096207\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"17860\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-665-prue-shaw\/commediacover\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/commediacover.jpg?fit=300%2C458\" data-orig-size=\"300,458\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"commediacover\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/commediacover.jpg?fit=300%2C458\" class=\"alignright wp-image-17860\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/commediacover.jpg?resize=280%2C427\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"427\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/commediacover.jpg?w=300 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/commediacover.jpg?resize=288%2C440 288w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px\" \/><\/a>With her amazing new book, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781324096207\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">DANTE: THE ESSENTIAL <em>COMMEDIA<\/em><\/a> (Liveright), scholar <a href=\"https:\/\/prueshaw.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Prue Shaw<\/a> brings us a canto-by-canto journey through Dante&#8217;s masterwork, interweaving translated verses with her commentary, and serving as a Virgil-like guide to the poem. We talk about how she was inspired by John Carey&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/32490567-the-essential-paradise-lost\">The Essential <em>Paradise Lost<\/em><\/a>, why the <em>Paradiso<\/em> was her biggest challenge, how the poem has changed for her over the course of her life, and why she went with prose translations of Dante rather than verse. We get into Dante&#8217;s balance of pride in his art and his humility before God, the modern sound of Dante&#8217;s verse and the challenge of translating Italian into English, what she&#8217;s learning from helping translate Shelley into Italian, why she wants <em>The Essential Commedia<\/em> to serve as a gateway drug into Dante, and the nature of language &amp; why the Tower of Babel plays a big role in the Commedia. We also discuss her incredible work on third edition of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dantecommedia.it\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Digital Commedia<\/a>, life after the death of her husband, Clive James, and putting a collection of his final poems together, how <a href=\"https:\/\/marvel.fandom.com\/wiki\/X-Men_Annual_Vol_1_4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">an issue of the <em>X-Men<\/em><\/a> turned me on to Dante as a kid, my changing views on Ulysses in the <em>Commedia<\/em>, why sloth is my fave of the deadly sins, and more. <a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a> And go read <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781324096207\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">DANTE: THE ESSENTIAL <em>COMMEDIA<\/em><\/a>!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I wonder about some basic aspects of Dante writing the Commedia in exile, from court to court: How did he get his parchment? Where did he stash it?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nu-lTzPNYys?si=h-XxRCjILzlSsS1X\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Clive was a poet, not a TV celebrity. He got totally involved with TV, and may have lost his sense of direction. But in the last years, because he was ill and couldn&#8217;t leave the house, all he did was write poems.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 10px;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/episode-665-prue-shaw\/id531173075?i=1000739408981\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I wanted the reader who has some Italian or wants to learn it to feel that they could read the English than look to the left and see how the Italian works.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe data-testid=\"embed-iframe\" style=\"border-radius:12px\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/5mSOaFchkXMfpykQdiAXd1?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameBorder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/virtualmemories\/Episode_665_-_Prue_Shaw.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes!<\/p>\n<p>Lots of ways to follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em>! <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/vmspod.bsky.social\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">BlueSky<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/vmspod\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Instagram<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCXoLbP-9GbhHJZpCQP5TR5A\/videos?view_as=subscriber\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">good ol&#8217; RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"17861\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-665-prue-shaw\/img_3828\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C1896\" data-orig-size=\"2560,1896\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.78&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 16 Pro&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1762017971&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;6.7649998656528&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;500&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.02&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_3828\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg?fit=525%2C389\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-17861\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828.jpeg?resize=525%2C389\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"389\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg?resize=620%2C459 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg?resize=440%2C326 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C569 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1137 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1517 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3828-scaled.jpeg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/prueshaw.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Prue Shaw<\/a> is an emeritus reader in Italian at University College London. She is the editor of the edizione nazionale of Dante&#8217;s medieval Latin treatise <a href=\"https:\/\/prueshaw.com\/books\/monarchia-1996\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Monarchia<\/a> and of a groundbreaking <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dantecommedia.it\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">digital edition of the <em>Commedia<\/em><\/a>. She lives in Cambridge, England. Her new book is <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781324096207\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dante: The Essential <em>Commedia<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Listen to our <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-111-time-memory-friendship-poetry-art\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2015 conversation<\/a> about <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/4669\/9781631490064\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Reading Dante: From Here To Eternity<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"17863\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-665-prue-shaw\/img_3825\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C1920\" data-orig-size=\"2560,1920\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.9&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 16 Pro&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1762017910&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;2.6900000572505&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;500&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.04&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_3825\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg?fit=525%2C394\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-17863\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825.jpeg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg?resize=620%2C465 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg?resize=440%2C330 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3825-scaled.jpeg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"17864\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-665-prue-shaw\/img_3824\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C2206\" data-orig-size=\"2560,2206\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.78&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 16 Pro&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1762017893&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;6.7649998656528&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;500&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.02&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_3824\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg?fit=525%2C452\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-17864\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824.jpeg?resize=525%2C452\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg?resize=620%2C534 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg?resize=440%2C379 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C662 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1324 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1765 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3824-scaled.jpeg?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"17862\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-665-prue-shaw\/img_3820\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?fit=2363%2C2560\" data-orig-size=\"2363,2560\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.78&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 16 Pro&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1762017853&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;6.7649998656528&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;500&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.02&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_3820\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?fit=525%2C569\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-17862\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820.jpeg?resize=525%2C569\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"569\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?resize=572%2C620 572w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?resize=406%2C440 406w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C832 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?resize=1418%2C1536 1418w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?resize=1890%2C2048 1890w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?w=1050 1050w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/IMG_3820-scaled.jpeg?w=1575 1575w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Fella<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/may4th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hal Mayforth<\/a>, used with permission from\u00a0the artist. The conversation was recorded at Prue&#8217;s home on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Rvj3R6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Blue enCORE 200<\/a> microphones feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Q9Br0z\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zoom PodTrak P4<\/a> digital recorder &amp; interface. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3cGZ1Em\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Q9Br0z\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zoom PodTrak P4<\/a>. All processing and editing done in <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3RwlQsW\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Adobe Audition CC<\/a>. Portrait photo of Prue by someone else; other ones by me, including ALL THE BOOKS. It&#8217;s on my <a href=\"http:\/\/instagram.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show 665: Prue Shaw &#8220;I felt again incredulity that one person could have produced this poem.&#8221; With her amazing new book, DANTE: THE ESSENTIAL COMMEDIA (Liveright), scholar Prue Shaw brings us a canto-by-canto journey through Dante&#8217;s masterwork, interweaving translated verses with her commentary, and serving as a Virgil-like guide to the poem. 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