{"id":8366,"date":"2014-12-02T11:45:50","date_gmt":"2014-12-02T15:45:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=8366"},"modified":"2014-12-02T15:17:48","modified_gmt":"2014-12-02T19:17:48","slug":"the-quotable-wayne-white","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/the-quotable-wayne-white","title":{"rendered":"The Quotable Wayne White"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a title=\"Ready to record by Gil Roth, on Flickr\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/chimeraobscura\/15492675827\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm4.staticflickr.com\/3943\/15492675827_c69e3710cf_z.jpg?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Ready to record\"  \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>When I make a post for a new podcast, I usually include a quote or two from the guest. <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-success-is-embarrassing\" target=\"_blank\">In Wayne White&#8217;s case<\/a>, there were a\u00a0whole lot of good quotes. I didn&#8217;t want to put them all in that post, so here&#8217;s a bunch of &#8217;em:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;Success really messes with your ego.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;I think most really famous people &#8212; politicians and movie stars &#8212; are sorta insane.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Art has to show a level of confidence, or no one will want to look at it.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;The movie has given me the opportunity to do bigger and better things, but as far as a psychological concept that I can use in my art, I&#8217;m still trying to figure out a way to make work that expresses what I&#8217;ve been through. It was quite a unique experience, being in the spotlight. I&#8217;d like to do some work that shares that story.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Getting on stage and performing is just another art project to me. It&#8217;s a way of manipulating people; that&#8217;s what art does. It was just another way of getting over an emotion, or a laugh, or an idea, just like a drawing or a painting does.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Sometimes it looks like I&#8217;m going for the laughs, but I&#8217;m going for connection, for the emotion. All artists are. What else is there, when you&#8217;re looking at a piece of art?&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;There&#8217;s something in the air out here in LA, with the big words in the landscape, the big open plain with the big monumental something sticking out of it.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;I gloss over my art and say, &#8216;I just go for the laughs and I&#8217;m just a plain old guy, and I like to entertain people,&#8217; because it&#8217;s funny and I don&#8217;t like to get too serious about it. But there are a lot of thorny issues with it and a lot of subtleties. It looks like I&#8217;m just defacing a painting and being funny, but I&#8217;m not. There are a million subtle things going on and that&#8217;s what makes it art.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;I&#8217;ve always loved cartoonists, like Mad magazine. Cartooning informs my work, big time.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Cartooning is the hardest craft I ever did, because it&#8217;s no-shit-everything-has-to-work. With a painting, you can fudge things. Everything in a cartoon has to work, like a car, or it won&#8217;t run. I learned a lot about craft and discipline from cartooning, way more than painting.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;I&#8217;ve been very lucky. I&#8217;ve had three separate careers: freelance illustrator, then set designer, puppetteer and animator, and now fine artist. I just bluffed my way into every one of &#8217;em!&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Like Red Grooms, I travel to a city, I hire local young artists and we build cool stuff.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Like my work, Jeff Koons is a similar kind of notion: Can I just hit it on the head and still make it art? Can it just be a complete, dumb, big idea that someone can get in a second and still be art?&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;To me, I like the hand-made, the feeling that the artist made it himself. That&#8217;s where the human smell comes in. . . . Some people would say, &#8216;soul&#8217; or &#8216;spirit,&#8217; but I like to use the word &#8216;smell&#8217;.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;I&#8217;m a frustrated writer; that&#8217;s why I do the word-paintings. Of course I write poems that I don&#8217;t show anybody. I&#8217;ve written lyrics that I&#8217;ve pitched to my musician friends, but they&#8217;re not interested.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;To live in New York, you have to love the street. The street is your front yard. That&#8217;s where you live most of the time. I got tired of that street energy.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;My favorite thing to do is just to draw. That&#8217;s where it all comes from, and that&#8217;s what gave me the confidence to bluff my way into things, because I could draw. 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In Wayne White&#8217;s case, there were a\u00a0whole lot of good quotes. I didn&#8217;t want to put them all in that post, so here&#8217;s a bunch of &#8217;em: &#8220;Success really messes with your ego.&#8221; &#8220;I think most &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/the-quotable-wayne-white\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Quotable Wayne White&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[22,26,46,4,40,1183,19],"tags":[1288,3136,2596],"class_list":["post-8366","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-art","category-comics","category-design","category-literature","category-music","category-podcasts","category-urban-issues","tag-jeff-koons","tag-red-grooms","tag-wayne-white"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4C7K-2aW","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":8370,"url":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-success-is-embarrassing","url_meta":{"origin":8366,"position":0},"title":"Podcast &#8211; Success is Embarrassing","author":"Gil","date":"December 2, 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Virtual Memories Show: Wayne White and Mimi Pond - Success is Embarrassing \"I've been very lucky. 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