{"id":8370,"date":"2014-12-02T09:08:43","date_gmt":"2014-12-02T13:08:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=8370"},"modified":"2014-12-17T10:58:39","modified_gmt":"2014-12-17T14:58:39","slug":"podcast-success-is-embarrassing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-success-is-embarrassing","title":{"rendered":"Podcast – Success is Embarrassing"},"content":{"rendered":"

Virtual Memories Show:
\nWayne White and Mimi Pond –
\nSuccess is Embarrassing<\/a><\/p>\n

“I’ve been very lucky. I’ve had three separate careers: freelance illustrator, then set designer, puppetteer and animator, and now fine artist. I just bluffed my way into every one of ’em.'” –Wayne White<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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\"Wayne<\/a><\/p>\n

Artist Wayne White<\/a> joins the show to talk about how his life and art have changed since he starred in the documentary Beauty is Embarrassing<\/a> (which, if you haven’t seen it, go do so now now NOW<\/a>!). We talk about the allure and absurdity of hubris, how much of the movie-Wayne maps onto the real version, how LA influenced his word-paintings, how he balances art and commerce, what happens to the giant puppets that he makes for installations, what he thinks of Jeff Koons, why he’s moving toward art-as-public-spectacle, what art form he’s dying to get back to, what his next big project is, when he’s gonna get rid of that beard, and more! Give it a listen!<\/a><\/p>\n

“Cartooning is the hardest craft I ever did, because it’s no-shit-everything-has-to-work. With a painting, you can fudge things. Everything in a cartoon has to work, like a car, or it won’t run. I learned a lot about craft and discipline from cartooning, way more than painting.” –Wayne White<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

But first, we have an interview with Wayne’s wife, Mimi Pond<\/a>! I interviewed Mimi last May (go listen to it<\/a>!) at the Toronto Comic Arts Festival, shortly after the release of her graphic memoir, Over Easy<\/a>\"\". This time around, we talk about the success of the book, the surprises of the book tour, how the sequel’s progressing, how it felt to win a PEN Center USA Literary Award, and more! (There are also some overlapping questions, and I thought you guys might dig hearing their different perspectives on topics like LA vs. NYC, and becoming empty-nesters.)<\/p>\n

“In LA, it’s the law that you must be engaged in writing a screenplay with your hairdresser, pool boy, personal trainer, life coach, dog walker, or yoga instructor.” –Mimi Pond<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\"Mimi<\/a><\/p>\n

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Enjoy the conversations!<\/a>\u00a0Check out more pix from my visit to their home<\/a>! Then check out\u00a0the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes! Related conversations:<\/p>\n