{"id":9098,"date":"2015-10-26T07:20:12","date_gmt":"2015-10-26T11:20:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=9098"},"modified":"2018-10-06T08:20:42","modified_gmt":"2018-10-06T12:20:42","slug":"episode-140-dylan-horrocks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-140-dylan-horrocks","title":{"rendered":"Episode 140 &#8211; Dylan Horrocks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show #140:<br \/>\nDylan Horrocks, Straight Outta Hicksville<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1089\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9098-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=9098-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;When you love an art form passionately, it can get complicated. It&#8217;s not a simple, clean, pure love that constantly enriches your life. It can also break your heart.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fantagraphics.com\/samzabel\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9101\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-140-dylan-horrocks\/samzabelcover\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/samzabelcover.png?fit=400%2C573\" data-orig-size=\"400,573\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"samzabelcover\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/samzabelcover.png?fit=400%2C573\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9101\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/samzabelcover.png?resize=220%2C315\" alt=\"samzabelcover\" width=\"220\" height=\"315\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/samzabelcover.png?resize=307%2C440 307w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/samzabelcover.png?w=400 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 220px) 100vw, 220px\" \/><\/a>Live from <a href=\"http:\/\/cartooncrossroadscolumbus.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CXC<\/a>!<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/hicksvillecomics.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dylan Horrocks<\/a>, the NZ cartoonist behind <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770460020\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770460020&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=ARLAXXGQVIID3HP6\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hicksville<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770460020\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (Drawn &amp; Quarterly) and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606997904\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606997904&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=7YY6E3MCUZOHJVJN\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sam Zabel And The Magic Pen<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606997904\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (Fantagraphics), joins the show for a live podcast to talk about his fear of comics, our responsibility for our fantasies, the way he built a fruitful career around creative block, the influence of Maori culture on white New Zealanders&#8217; perspectives, the way his backup stories keep becoming his major projects, his take on Charlie Hebdo and how it ties into his experience with the fatwa on Salman Rushdie, and the idea that America is a story we tell ourselves. <em>This episode is part of our <a href=\"http:\/\/cartooncrossroadscolumbus.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cartoon Crossroads Columbus<\/a> series of live podcasts.<\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Part of what I was trying to do was to explore what it means to be marginal. Comics were seen as marginal to the literary world and the art world, and New Zealand is seen as being at the bottom of the world. Instead of saying, &#8216;We&#8217;re on the edges of these two worlds, so let&#8217;s travel to the center,&#8217; I decided that there is no center. Wherever you are on the surface of the world, that&#8217;s the center of the world.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Dylan also talks about backing into mainstream comics without a vision for what to do when he got there, his parents&#8217; history in a Trotskyist revolutionary cell, the literary aspect of his work, and whether comics really will break your heart. <em>BONUS: you get my story about how Hicksville led me travel to the other side of the planet (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hIo4KU4Xrns\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">and make this jump<\/a>)<\/em>. <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Go listen!\u00a0<\/a> <em>(And go buy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770460020\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770460020&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=ARLAXXGQVIID3HP6\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hicksville<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770460020\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606997904\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606997904&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=7YY6E3MCUZOHJVJN\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sam Zabel And The Magic Pen<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606997904\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>!)<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I have the idea that America is a narrative, a fiction, in the same way that every nation is kind of a fictional construction. . . . America is a story we tell ourselves.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1090\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9098-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=9098-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_140_-_Dylan_Horrocks.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes! You might like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-139-derf-backderf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Derf Backderf<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-138-bill-griffith\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bill Griffith<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-the-show-must-go-on\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Roger Langridge<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-137-scott-mccloud\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Scott McCloud<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-103-nostalgia-of-the-infinite\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jim Woodring<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em> on <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/VirtualMemoriesShow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hicksvilledylan.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9099\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-140-dylan-horrocks\/hicksvilledylan\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hicksvilledylan.jpg?fit=443%2C319\" data-orig-size=\"443,319\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"hicksvilledylan\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hicksvilledylan.jpg?fit=443%2C319\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9099\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hicksvilledylan.jpg?resize=381%2C274\" alt=\"hicksvilledylan\" width=\"381\" height=\"274\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hicksvilledylan.jpg?resize=440%2C317 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/hicksvilledylan.jpg?w=443 443w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 381px) 100vw, 381px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/hicksvillecomics.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dylan Horrocks<\/a> is from New Zealand, where he lives near the city of his birth, Auckland, with his wife and their two sons. He published 10 issues of his legendary comic book series <em>Pickle<\/em> through Canada&#8217;s Black Eye Press in the mid-1990s. A collected version of his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770460020\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770460020&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=ARLAXXGQVIID3HP6\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hicksville<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770460020\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> serial was first published in 1998, and quickly became one of the cartoon works of its generation. <em>Hicksville<\/em>&#8216;s vision of a small town where comics are so valued that, even those comics that never got to be created somehow exist, is a thrilling, yet human vision for the art form, and one which cartoonists and audiences have rallied to ever since. Horrocks has since drawn the comic book <em>Atlas<\/em> for Drawn And Quarterly, spent time working for DC Comics, and has become an educator and advocate for the art form in New Zealand and abroad. His newest book is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606997904\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606997904&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=7YY6E3MCUZOHJVJN\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sam Zabel And The Magic Pen<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606997904\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, a new graphic novel published by Fantagraphics about the act of creation and the pernicious qualities of being creatively blocked. His <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0864739222\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0864739222&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=Z7DBLN3VBGAEHUSH\" rel=\"nofollow\">Incomplete Works<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0864739222\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> will be published in the U.S. any time now. You can follow Dylan on Twitter at <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dylanhorrocks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@dylanhorrocks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Bring Me Down<em>\u00a0by David Baerwald, used with permission of the artist. The conversation was recorded at the Cultural Arts Center in Columbus, OH during\u00a0Cartoon Crossroads Columbus in October 2015 on a pair of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing&amp;linkId=64RDM7RI2SABXGPL\">Blue enCORE 200 microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing&amp;linkId=DRHR6463DEQ4TO3N\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> digital recorder. I recorded the intro and outro on a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002VA464S\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002VA464S&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing\">Blue Yeti USB Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002VA464S\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Processing was done in Audacity and Logic Pro. Photo of me &amp; Mr. Horrocks by <a href=\"http:\/\/amyrothphoto.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amy Roth<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show #140: Dylan Horrocks, Straight Outta Hicksville &#8220;When you love an art form passionately, it can get complicated. It&#8217;s not a simple, clean, pure love that constantly enriches your life. It can also break your heart.&#8221; Live from CXC! 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