{"id":9206,"date":"2015-11-30T22:12:49","date_gmt":"2015-12-01T02:12:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=9206"},"modified":"2017-11-25T09:36:18","modified_gmt":"2017-11-25T13:36:18","slug":"episode-145-kathe-koja-and-john-clute","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-145-kathe-koja-and-john-clute","title":{"rendered":"Episode 145 &#8211; Kathe Koja and John Clute"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show #145:<br \/>\nKathe Koja and John Clute<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_6806\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9206-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=9206-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I started writing stories as soon as I knew what stories were. I taught myself to type when I was 8 years old, because I couldn&#8217;t write fast enough.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lieder-BP-Front_500.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9212\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-145-kathe-koja-and-john-clute\/illustration\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lieder-BP-Front_500.jpg?fit=348%2C500\" data-orig-size=\"348,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Rick Lieder&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;Copyright Rick Lieder, All Rights Reserved&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Illustration&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Illustration\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lieder-BP-Front_500.jpg?fit=348%2C500\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9212\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lieder-BP-Front_500.jpg?resize=200%2C287\" alt=\"Illustration\" width=\"200\" height=\"287\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lieder-BP-Front_500.jpg?resize=306%2C440 306w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lieder-BP-Front_500.jpg?w=348 348w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>Novelist and immersive theater director <a href=\"http:\/\/kathekoja.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kathe Koja<\/a> joins the show to talk about her new novel, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.roadswell.com\/store\/p8\/The_Bastards%27_Paradise_%28Trade_Edition%29.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Bastards&#8217; Paradise<\/a>, the arc of her career from splatterpunk (hey, it was the &#8217;90s) to YA to the 19th C. romance of her <em>Poppy<\/em> trilogy, the meaning of Detroit, her life-changing experience at a staging of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sleepnomore.com\/#share\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sleep No More<\/a>, the joys (and perils) of defying genre conventions, the epiphany of brutally murdering Tweddle-Dee, saving her first novel (from when she was 14) to feel better about herself, why great poetry is like IV drugs, and more!\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think the story of the wrongness of science fiction is like an exposure of the nature of homo sapiens on this planet. Science fiction goes wrong because we go wrong, and it does it with great clarity. I want a record of that and I want to see how we go wrong and how we can learn.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Then <a href=\"http:\/\/johnclute.co.uk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Clute<\/a> returns to the show to talk about establishing the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tellurideinstitute.org\/clute_science_fiction.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Clute Science Fiction Library @\u00a0Telluride<\/a>! Also, he uses the word &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Haecceity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">haecceity<\/a>&#8221; in conversation, which is a Virtual Memories first! <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Go listen!<\/a><br \/>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_6807\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9206-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=9206-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<p>We talk about some books and a couple of movies in this episode. Here&#8217;s a list of them:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/smallbeerpress.com\/books\/2012\/09\/10\/under-the-poppy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Under The Poppy<\/a> &#8211; Kathe Koja<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.roadswell.com\/store\/p3\/The_Mercury_Waltz_%28Trade_Edition%29.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Mercury Waltz<\/a> &#8211; Kathe Koja<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.roadswell.com\/store\/p8\/The_Bastards%27_Paradise_%28Trade_Edition%29.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bastard&#8217;s Paradise<\/a> &#8211; Kathe Koja<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0440207827\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0440207827&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=XOWXTIHN42PAZBVT\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Cipher<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0440207827\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Kathe Koja<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0805043918\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0805043918&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=XKUDRP4ARL6J4WXV\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kink<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0805043918\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Kathe Koja<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B010EWC02E\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B010EWC02E&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=OYN37S5Z33A2PHO6\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Mad Man<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B010EWC02E\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Samuel R. Delany<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1503261387\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1503261387&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=SNFKVRP5RGNXDQDJ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dracula<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1503261387\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Bram Stoker<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0147515874\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0147515874&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=ABHKM5FP4UHI3TLZ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Alice&#8217;s Adventures in Wonderland<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0147515874\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Lewis Carroll<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0140250379\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0140250379&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=GP4IRE55L2QBDMHJ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Come Along with Me<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0140250379\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Shirley Jackson<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0253212340\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0253212340&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=X3WD2H6DX2RO7W4I\" rel=\"nofollow\">Riddley Walker<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0253212340\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Russell Hoban<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0786701927\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0786701927&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=VZXRFW7FKGDVHQB3\" rel=\"nofollow\">A Dead Man in Deptford<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0786701927\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Anthony Burgess<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/067978330X\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=067978330X&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=P7ULZWHUVCFLFWYC\" rel=\"nofollow\">Anna Karenina<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=067978330X\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Tolstoy<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sonyclassics.com\/synecdocheny\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Synecdoche, NY<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=DT6QJaS2a-U\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anomalisa<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0141439556\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0141439556&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=3QBYZNO3ZACBIBLZ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wuthering Heights<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0141439556\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Emily\u00a0Bronte<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0140268863\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0140268863&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=S45GJQHGQDZVXQAK\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Odyssey<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0140268863\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Homer<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0679772871\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0679772871&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4IDLNMPJLEHA7PLD\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Magic Mountain<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0679772871\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Thomas Mann<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0486282082\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0486282082&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=XAX4PCBSFKPRLD5N\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dr. Faustus<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0486282082\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> &#8211; Thomas Mann<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_145_-_Kathe_Koja_and_John_Clute.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes! You might like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-131-ever-after\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Clute 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-the-way-of-pen-and-sword\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Maria Alexander<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-126-people-from-away\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Liz Hand<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-readercon-2013-fairies-and-zombies\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Crowley\/Scott Edelman<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Michael Dirda <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-the-correction-of-taste\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-bookmans-holiday\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-127-the-meandering-reflections-of-a-literary-sybarite\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">3<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-the-importance-of-being-out\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Craig Gidney<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em> on <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/VirtualMemoriesShow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guests<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kathekoja.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kathe Koja<\/a>\u2019s 16th novel, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.roadswell.com\/kathe-koja.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">The Bastards&#8217; Paradise<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B017X4J1IC\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, is just out from Roadswell Editions. Her other novels include <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B008LDFLMU\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B008LDFLMU&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=5NF664G2OJRJERIJ\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Cipher<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B008LDFLMU\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00FAAL4VY\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00FAAL4VY&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4WU7HWBLJ33L4M6I\" rel=\"nofollow\">Skin<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00FAAL4VY\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00XKA2DK2\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00XKA2DK2&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=TR2KN3UCKW54UE3V\" rel=\"nofollow\">Strange Angels<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00XKA2DK2\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0142402095\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0142402095&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=XI4URPOA4R3LIUNQ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Buddha Boy<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0142402095\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0312376057\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0312376057&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=MF5GXPHKM2ODWZ6O\" rel=\"nofollow\">Talk<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0312376057\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0374329125\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0374329125&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=JE2OKZQD67Q2C6UK\" rel=\"nofollow\">Headlong<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0374329125\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Her work has won numerous awards, been multiply translated, and optioned for film and performance. As a director\/producer, she leads the performance group <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kathekoja.com\/blog\/events\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">nerve<\/a> in creating immersive live events.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/19655441552_fe367d5d1a_m1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9217\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-145-kathe-koja-and-john-clute\/19655441552_fe367d5d1a_m-2\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/19655441552_fe367d5d1a_m1.jpg?fit=232%2C240\" data-orig-size=\"232,240\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"19655441552_fe367d5d1a_m\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/19655441552_fe367d5d1a_m1.jpg?fit=232%2C240\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9217\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/19655441552_fe367d5d1a_m1.jpg?resize=225%2C233\" alt=\"19655441552_fe367d5d1a_m\" width=\"225\" height=\"233\" \/><\/a>Via <a href=\"http:\/\/johnclute.co.uk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Clute<\/a>&#8216;s entry from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/clute_john\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Encyclopedia of Science Fiction<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>(1940- ) Canadian novelist and sf critic, in the UK from 1969; married to Judith <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/clute_judith\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Clute<\/a> from 1964. He has been the partner of Elizabeth <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/hand_elizabeth\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hand<\/a> since 1996. His first professional publication, a long sf-tinged poem called &#8220;Carcajou Lament&#8221;, appeared in <i>Triquarterly<\/i> for Winter 1960 (i.e. in 1959), though he only began publishing sf proper with &#8220;A Man Must Die&#8221; in <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/new_worlds\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New Worlds<\/a> for November 1966, where much of his earlier criticism also appeared. This criticism, despite some studiously flamboyant obscurities, remains essentially practical, and has appeared mostly in the form of reviews, many of which first appeared in <i>The<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/fsf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/foundation_the_review_of_science_fiction\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Foundation<\/a>, <i>Washington Post<\/i>, <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/omni\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Omni<\/a>, <i>Times Literary Supplement<\/i>, <i>New York Times<\/i>, <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/new_york_review_of_science_fiction\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New York Review of Science Fiction<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/interzone\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Interzone<\/a>, <i>Los Angeles Times<\/i>, <i>Observer<\/i>, <i>Science Fiction Weekly<\/i> (see <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/online_magazines\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Online Magazines<\/a>), the <i>Independent<\/i>, <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/strange_horizons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Strange Horizons<\/a> and elsewhere. He has written two regular review columns: <b>Excessive Candour<\/b> for <i>Science Fiction Weekly<\/i> between 1997 and 2009; and <b>Scores<\/b>, intermittently in <i>The<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/infinite_matrix_the\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Infinite Matrix<\/a> 2001-2003, regularly in <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/interzone\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Interzone<\/a> between 2005 and 2008, and in <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/strange_horizons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Strange Horizons<\/a> from 2010. Selections from this work, almost always revised, have been assembled in <i>Strokes: Essays and Reviews 1966-1986<\/i> (coll <b>1988<\/b>), <i>Look at the Evidence: Essays and Reviews<\/i> (coll dated 1995 but <b>1996<\/b>), <i>Scores: Reviews 1993-2003<\/i> (coll <b>2003<\/b>), <i>Canary Fever: Reviews<\/i> (coll <b>2009<\/b>) and <i>Stay<\/i> (coll <b>2014<\/b>). An ongoing project to construct models of story &#8220;moves&#8221; in the literatures of the fantastic is represented by a set of connected motif entries in <i>The Encyclopedia of Fantasy<\/i> (<b>1997<\/b>) with John <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/grant_john\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Grant<\/a> [see <i>The<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/encyclopedia_of_fantasy_the\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Encyclopedia of Fantasy<\/a> under <b>links<\/b> below] and in <i>The Darkening Garden: A Short Lexicon of Horror<\/i> (<b>2006<\/b>), as well as in <i>Fustian<\/i> (<b>2006<\/b> chap) with Jason <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/van_hollander_jason\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Van Hollander<\/a>, a long interview focused on these issues. In later essays \u2013 like &#8220;Fantastika in the World Storm&#8221; (Spring 2008 <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/foundation_the_review_of_science_fiction\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Foundation<\/a>) and &#8220;Physics for Amnesia&#8221; (October 2008 <i>The<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/new_york_review_of_science_fiction\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New York Review of Science Fiction<\/a>), both assembled in revised form with other essays as <i>Pardon This Intrusion: Fantastika in the World Storm<\/i> (coll <b>2011<\/b>) \u2013 he has suggested that a central task for <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/fantastika\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fantastika<\/a> in the twenty-first century is to dissolve the cultural <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/amnesia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amnesia<\/a> that has arguably consumed the Western world since <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/world_war_two\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">World War Two<\/a> (see <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/horror_in_sf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Horror in SF<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/postmodernism_and_sf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Postmodernism and SF<\/a>). Primarily for his critical work, he received a <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/pilgrim_award\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pilgrim Award<\/a> in 1994, the <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/iafa_award\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">IAFA Award<\/a> as Distinguished Guest Scholar in 1999, and a Solstice Award (see <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/sfwa_grand_master_award\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SFWA Grand Master Award<\/a>) in 2012.<\/p>\n<p>In 1960 Clute was Associate Editor of <i>Collage<\/i>, an ill fated Chicago-based <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/slick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Slick<\/a> magazine which in its two issues did manage to publish early work by Harlan <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/ellison_harlan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ellison<\/a> and R A <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/lafferty_r_a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lafferty<\/a>. He served as Reviews Editor of <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/foundation_the_review_of_science_fiction\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Foundation<\/a> 1980-1990, and was a founder of <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/interzone\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Interzone<\/a> in 1982; he remained Advisory Editor of that magazine until 2004, and then contributed the column mentioned above. He was the Associate Editor of the first edition of <i>The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction<\/i> (<b>1979<\/b>; vt <i>The Science Fiction Encyclopedia<\/i> <b>1979<\/b>), which won a <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/hugo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hugo<\/a> award, and was co-editor of the much-expanded second edition <i>The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction<\/i> (<b>1993<\/b>; rev <b>1995<\/b>; further rev vt <i>Grolier Science Fiction: The Multimedia Encyclopedia of Science Fiction<\/i> <b>1995<\/b> CD-ROM; further rev <b>1999<\/b>), for which he shared 1994 <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/hugo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hugo<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/locus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Locus<\/a> awards with Peter <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/nicholls_peter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nicholls<\/a>. Though Clute and Nicholls were listed as editors, the book was in fact written mostly by them and Associate Editor Brian <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/stableford_brian_m\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Stableford<\/a>. The current third edition, again much expanded as <i>The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction<\/i> (online from <b>2011<\/b>) edited by John Clute and David <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/langford_david\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Langford<\/a> with Peter <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/nicholls_peter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nicholls<\/a> serving as Editor Emeritus and Graham <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/sleight_graham\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sleight<\/a> as Managing Editor, has similarly been written in the main by its editors and Contributing Editors; it won a <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/hugo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hugo<\/a> as Best Related Work in 2012. <i>Science Fiction: The Illustrated Encyclopedia<\/i> (<b>1995<\/b>), which he wrote solo and for which he also received a <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/hugo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hugo<\/a> in 1996, is a companion to sf, not in any way connected to the encyclopedias listed above. <i>The<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/encyclopedia_of_fantasy_the\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Encyclopedia of Fantasy<\/a> (<b>1997<\/b>) with John <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/grant_john\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Grant<\/a>, for which both editors shared a 1998 <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/hugo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hugo<\/a>, deals with fantasy within a frame broadly compatible with that governing this Encyclopedia, which is its elder sibling.<\/p>\n<p>Over his career, Clute has published several sf stories and two novels: <i>The Disinheriting Party<\/i> (in <i>New Worlds Quarterly 5<\/i>, anth <b>1973<\/b>, ed Michael <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/moorcock_michael\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Moorcock<\/a>; exp <b>1977<\/b>), which is <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/equipoise\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Equipoisal<\/a> with the fantastic, but demurs into rationalizations at the end; and <i>Appleseed<\/i> (<b>2001<\/b>), which is a <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/space_opera\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Space Opera<\/a> with an anti-<a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/religion\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Religion<\/a> bias. The Made Minds (<a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/ai\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AI<\/a>s) who dominate much of the action manifest themselves throughout as <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/avatars\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Avatars<\/a> allied to a <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/forerunners\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Forerunner<\/a> mentor in support of all surviving humans, who are shunned because of the sexual (see <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/sex\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sex<\/a>) odour they emit; but as they are genetically deaf to god (see <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/communications\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Communications<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/gods_and_demons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gods and Demons<\/a>), the galaxy-wide diaspora of <i>Homo sapiens<\/i> has created a <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/pariah_elite\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pariah Elite<\/a> destined to become central combatants in the coming universal <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/war\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">War<\/a> against the <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/entropy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Entropy<\/a>-generating deity, as proclaimed for the first time in the book&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/sf-encyclopedia.com\/entry\/slingshot_ending\">Slingshot Ending<\/a>. [JC]\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Bring Me Down<em>\u00a0by David Baerwald, used with permission of the artist. The conversation with Ms. Koja was recorded at the Saratoga Hilton\u00a0on a pair of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing&amp;linkId=64RDM7RI2SABXGPL\">Blue enCORE 200 microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing&amp;linkId=DRHR6463DEQ4TO3N\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> digital recorder (except for when I screwed up the recording and used my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B005CQ2ZY6\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B005CQ2ZY6&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=2VEW5ZANMS6V3PQJ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Zoom H2n<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B005CQ2ZY6\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> backup). The session with Mr. Clute was done on my enCORE 200 &amp; Zoom H5. I recorded the intro and outro on a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002VA464S\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002VA464S&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing\">Blue Yeti USB Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002VA464S\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Processing was done in Audacity and Logic Pro. Photos of Ms. Koja and Mr. Clute by me. <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Virtual Memories Show #145: Kathe Koja and John Clute &#8220;I started writing stories as soon as I knew what stories were. I taught myself to type when I was 8 years old, because I couldn&#8217;t write fast enough.&#8221; Novelist and immersive theater director Kathe Koja joins the show to talk about her new novel, &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-145-kathe-koja-and-john-clute\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Episode 145 &#8211; Kathe Koja and John Clute&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10864,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4,1183],"tags":[3889,3794,3891,574,3715,3893,3896,2342,3890,3884,3897,3892,3885,1935,3033,1461,171,1562,3883,1359,1450,3886,141,2791,2636,3888,1917,3128,3887,1194,3895,2920,925,1242,3894],"class_list":["post-9206","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-literature","category-podcasts","tag-angela-carter","tag-anthony-burgess","tag-barbara-bush","tag-charlie-kaufman","tag-charlotte-bronte","tag-christopher-marlowe","tag-christopher-priest","tag-emily-dickinson","tag-er-eddison","tag-francis-foster","tag-frederik-pohl","tag-guy-maddin","tag-helen-davies","tag-isaac-asimov","tag-jeff-vandermeer","tag-john-clute","tag-john-crowley","tag-jonathan-galassi","tag-kathe-koja","tag-matt-groening","tag-michael-dirda","tag-michael-ventura","tag-paul-di-filippo","tag-readercon","tag-rupert-thomson","tag-russell-hoban","tag-scott-edelman","tag-shirley-jackson","tag-sleep-no-more","tag-stefan-zweig","tag-telluride-institute","tag-thomas-mann","tag-tolstoy","tag-william-s-burroughs","tag-world-fantasy-con"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/22236568714_8abb264749_o.jpg?fit=3390%2C2542","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4C7K-2ou","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":13440,"url":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-373-kathe-koja","url_meta":{"origin":9206,"position":0},"title":"Episode 373 &#8211; Kathe Koja","author":"Gil","date":"May 26, 2020","format":"audio","excerpt":"Virtual Memories Show 373: Kathe Koja \"Chaos is its own engine.\" Writer, performer, director and producer Kathe Koja rejoins the show to talk about her new story collection, VELOCITIES (Meerkat Press). 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