{"id":9675,"date":"2016-05-30T20:21:00","date_gmt":"2016-05-31T00:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=9675"},"modified":"2018-05-16T08:17:24","modified_gmt":"2018-05-16T12:17:24","slug":"episode-170-chester-brown-nina-bunjevac-wnjpoets-corner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-170-chester-brown-nina-bunjevac-wnjpoets-corner","title":{"rendered":"Episode 170 &#8211; Chester Brown &#038; Nina Bunjevac (w\/#NJPoet&#8217;s Corner)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show #170:<br \/>\nChester Brown &amp; Nina Bunjevac, plus #NJPoet&#8217;s Corner<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2031\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9675-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=9675-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Book of Job goes against what people think the Bible is supposed to be saying. It challenges people&#8217;s views about God and what our relationship is supposed to be with God. No one wants to confront what I think it&#8217;s saying: that God isn&#8217;t interested in human conceptions of right and wrong.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.drawnandquarterly.com\/author\/chester-brown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9680\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-170-chester-brown-nina-bunjevac-wnjpoets-corner\/51sq-hngfvl-_sx273_bo1204203200_\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/51Sq-hNgfVL._SX273_BO1204203200_.jpg?fit=275%2C498\" data-orig-size=\"275,498\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"51Sq-hNgfVL._SX273_BO1,204,203,200_\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/51Sq-hNgfVL._SX273_BO1204203200_.jpg?fit=275%2C498\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9680\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/51Sq-hNgfVL._SX273_BO1204203200_.jpg?resize=200%2C362\" alt=\"51Sq-hNgfVL._SX273_BO1,204,203,200_\" width=\"200\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/51Sq-hNgfVL._SX273_BO1204203200_.jpg?resize=243%2C440 243w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/51Sq-hNgfVL._SX273_BO1204203200_.jpg?w=275 275w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>The <em><strong>Paying For It Players<\/strong><\/em> return! During\u00a0the Toronto Comic Arts Festival,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.drawnandquarterly.com\/author\/chester-brown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chester Brown<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/ninabunjevac.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nina Bunjevac<\/a> rejoin the show to perform a chapter from Chester&#8217;s amazing new book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770462341\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770462341&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing&amp;linkId=DQMECHAFQGPWC3AC\">Mary Wept Over the Feet of Jesus<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770462341\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>! Then we talk with Chester about his understanding of God, the role of prostitution in the Bible, his favorite stories from the Hebrew and Christian gospels, and the girlfriend who inadvertently\u00a0spurred his interest in\u00a0Biblical scholarship. Then Nina Bunjevac discusses\u00a0her response to the book tour for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1631490311\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1631490311&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing&amp;linkId=PCZHPFCLET6SIHJI\">Fatherland<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1631490311\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, laments the loss of small bookstores in North America, explains why she&#8217;s changing course in her comics career, and more!\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a>\u00a0And buy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770462341\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770462341&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=voyantpublishing&amp;linkId=DQMECHAFQGPWC3AC\">Mary Wept Over the Feet of Jesus<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=voyantpublishing&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770462341\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (Drawn &amp; Quarterly)!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think we have a really big problem in North America, because the holy trinity of artist-publisher-bookseller doesn&#8217;t really exist.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Plus, this month&#8217;s #NJPoet&#8217;s Corner with <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/charlesbivona\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Charles Bivona<\/a> talks about his evolution on Twitter! It&#8217;s a long conversation,\u00a0so we only put an excerpt in this week&#8217;s podcast. (But you can <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_1_-_My_Twitter_Life.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">download the full MP3\u00a0of #NJPoet&#8217;s Corner here<\/a>!)<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2032\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9675-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=9675-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_170_-_Chester_Brown__Nina_Bunjevac_w_NJPoets_Corner.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversations\u00a0<em>and<\/em> the performance!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes! You might like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-119-paid-in-full\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chester Brown 2015<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-times-bomb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nina Bunjevac 2015<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-haste-ye-back\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Seth<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-134-angel-lion-ox-eagle\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Warren Woodfin<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-creativity-on-demand\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kaz<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-35-cents-a-stamp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Porcellino<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em> on <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/VirtualMemoriesShow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guests<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.drawnandquarterly.com\/author\/chester-brown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chester Brown<\/a> was born in Montreal in 1960 and is best known for his nonfiction graphic novels: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1894937899\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1894937899&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=NB4MCDT73MOPYJAU\">Louis Riel: A Comic-Strip Biography<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1894937899\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770461191\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770461191&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=EM6WX6I7TWLX26AM\">Paying for It<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770461191\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. He is also the author of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770461183\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770461183&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=3WCW7IKQOGFOH76P\">The Playboy<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770461183\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1896597149\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1896597149&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=HCW4ZLGOF343LMCC\">I Never Liked You<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1896597149\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1896597130\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1896597130&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=RHQ6PX4XJTI7P7FO\">The Little Man<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1896597130\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770460756\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770460756&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=JPSHTTJ3X2Q2GQPF\">Ed the Happy Clown<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770460756\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, all published by Drawn &amp; Quarterly. He lives in Toronto, where he ran for Parliament twice as a member of the Libertarian Party of Canada. His new book is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770462341\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770462341&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=5N67TVSA2LQYJRQ3\">Mary Wept Over the Feet of Jesus<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770462341\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ninabunjevac.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nina Bunjevac<\/a> was born in Canada in 1973. Having started her art training in Yugoslavia, she moved to Toronto in 1990, where she continued her studies. She is the author of the collection <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1894994647\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1894994647&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=POM73YTJ5NUBEQZK\">Heartless<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1894994647\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, from Conundrum Press, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1631490311\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1631490311&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=RQFPTZXA36ZCHMBO\">Fatherland: A Family History<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1631490311\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, published in the US from Liveright Press. She lives in Toronto.<\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Bring Me Down<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/davidanddavidmusic\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">David Baerwald<\/a>, used with permission of the artist. The conversation was recorded at\u00a0the Toronto Marriott Bloor Yorkville Hotel on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=URDAV7Z2QAHX4UAB\">Blue enCORE 200 Microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4WKYIFHCCL6N44BR\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> digital recorder. The conversation with Charles Bivona was recorded on the same setup, at his home. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=URDAV7Z2QAHX4UAB\">Blue enCORE 200 Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003VZG550\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B003VZG550&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=M2DKYCZ52E6ZFUA3\">Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2&#215;2 USB Recording Interface<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VZG550\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Processing was done in Audacity and Logic Pro. Photo of Chester &amp; Nina by me.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show #170: Chester Brown &amp; Nina Bunjevac, plus #NJPoet&#8217;s Corner &#8220;The Book of Job goes against what people think the Bible is supposed to be saying. It challenges people&#8217;s views about God and what our relationship is supposed to be with God. 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