{"id":9951,"date":"2016-10-31T20:11:03","date_gmt":"2016-11-01T00:11:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=9951"},"modified":"2017-11-25T17:57:44","modified_gmt":"2017-11-25T21:57:44","slug":"episode-192-jim-woodring","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-192-jim-woodring","title":{"rendered":"Episode 192 &#8211; Jim Woodring"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show #192: Jim Woodring<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8398\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9951-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=9951-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I have something to live for in the goal of producing this long, fascinating, convoluted, loop-de-loop, metaphysical story arc. And that&#8217;s the kind of thing that occupies me and makes my days the joyous things they are: living in this screwed-up dream-world that isolates me from the rest of the world and humanity in general.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jimwoodring.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jim Woodring<\/a> rejoins the show to talk art, comics and the Unifactor! During a break at SPX 2016, we sat down to discuss the importance of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fantagraphics.com\/artists\/jim-woodring\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fantagraphics<\/a> on its 40th anniversary, Jim&#8217;s move to Seattle in 1974 and his move away from there last year, camaraderie with the cartoonists of his generation, what he&#8217;d do if he was just starting out as a cartoonist today, the experience of seeing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606998994\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606998994&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=5d0b9a59409a9ca4fa6030ec9d49e6d3\">Frank in 3-D<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606998994\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, the joys of drawing with a six-foot pen, just what Art is there for, and more!\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a> And go buy his newest book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606998994\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606998994&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=5d0b9a59409a9ca4fa6030ec9d49e6d3\">Frank In The 3rd Dimension<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606998994\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Some people say religious experiences are just in the person&#8217;s mind, but where else would they be?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8399\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9951-2\" 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class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fantagraphics.com\/frank3d\/\"><img 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data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/FRANK-in-3rd-Dimension-cover.png?fit=525%2C420\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9955 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/FRANK-in-3rd-Dimension-cover.png?resize=440%2C352\" alt=\"frank-in-3rd-dimension-cover\" width=\"440\" height=\"352\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/FRANK-in-3rd-Dimension-cover.png?resize=440%2C352 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/FRANK-in-3rd-Dimension-cover.png?resize=768%2C614 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/FRANK-in-3rd-Dimension-cover.png?resize=620%2C496 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/FRANK-in-3rd-Dimension-cover.png?w=1500 1500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/FRANK-in-3rd-Dimension-cover.png?w=1050 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\" \/><\/a>We also talk about how Jack Kirby drew\u00a0like a haunted machine, why computers have led to a generation of prosthetic geniuses, why he sticks with analog drawing tools (like that six-foot-long pen, known as Nibbus Maximus), the remarkable experience of going on a tour of the South China Seas with &#8220;a billionaire friend of mine&#8221;, his relationship with the Unifactor (and the perils of trying to circumvent its storytelling imperatives), the role of perseverance in becoming a better artist, and the feeling that he&#8217;s done the right thing in his life. <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Now go listen to the show!<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I feel like a pretender next to guys like Jaime and Gilbert Hernandez. With my limited abilities and my &#8216;that&#8217;s good enough&#8217; philosophy of art, I feel like I&#8217;ve just sneaked into the party.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_192_-_Jim_Woodring.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes! You might like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-186-michael-maslin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jim Woodring<\/a> (2015)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-the-least-insane-of-cartoonists\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pete Bagge<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-138-bill-griffith\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bill Griffith<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-creativity-on-demand\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kaz<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-our-lady-of-organized-vituperation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mary Fleener<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em> on <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/VirtualMemoriesShow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9953\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-192-jim-woodring\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?fit=1654%2C2048\" data-orig-size=\"1654,2048\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?fit=501%2C620\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9953\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?resize=280%2C347\" alt=\"16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k\" width=\"280\" height=\"347\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?resize=355%2C440 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?resize=768%2C951 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?resize=501%2C620 501w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?w=1654 1654w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?w=1050 1050w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/16219296116_804d4bfe9c_k.jpg?w=1575 1575w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/jimwoodring.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jim Woodring<\/a> was born in Los Angeles in 1952 and enjoyed a childhood made lively by an assortment of mental an psychological quirks including paroniria, paranoia, paracusia, apparitions, hallucinations and other species of psychological and neurological malfunction among the snakes and tarantulas of the San Gabriel mountains.<\/p>\n<p>He eventually grew up to be an inquisitive bearlike man who has enjoyed three exciting careers: garbage collector, merry-go-round-operator and cartoonist. A self-taught artist, his first published works documented the disorienting hell of his salad days in an \u201cillustrated autojournal\u201d called JIM. This work was published by Fantagraphics Books and collected in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/156097091X\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=156097091X&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=9fecfcccbb4c6c15fe6c31cf4b3acea5\">The Book of Jim<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=156097091X\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> in 1992. A newer collection of these comics was published as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606997521\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606997521&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=7e65a09836d9b7257e372b8eb0faa17c\">Jim<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606997521\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>.<\/p>\n<p>He is best known for his wordless comics series depicting the follies of his character Frank, a generic cartoon anthropomorph whose adventures careen wildly from sweet to appalling. A decade\u2019s worth of these stories was collected in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606995006\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606995006&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=364075f52bb6de425322e76af16e3237\">The Frank Book<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606995006\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> in 2004. The 2010 Frank story <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/160699977X\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=160699977X&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=7fefbe6eb1ee26b5adc90a87af15b774\">Weathercraft<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=160699977X\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> won The Stranger\u2019s Genius Award and was a finalist for the <em>Los Angeles Times<\/em> Book Prize for that year. Woodring has published two more FRANK books, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606994379\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606994379&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=14c596e5eb00f65005469f7d5be6ec84\">The Congress of the Animals<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606994379\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606996614\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606996614&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=d6ed4ae1649d79b2209eeec1d9be329e\">Fran<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606996614\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. His newest book is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1606998994\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1606998994&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=5d0b9a59409a9ca4fa6030ec9d49e6d3\">Frank In The 3rd Dimension<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1606998994\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, with Charles Barnard.<\/p>\n<p>Woodring is also known for his anecdotal charcoal drawings (a selection which was gathered in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1560976489\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1560976489&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=9e9e6b293ec9b6ecf956e938f0f605e6\">Seeing Things<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1560976489\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> in 2005), and the sculptures, vinyl figures, fabrics and gallery installations that have been made from his designs. His multimedia collaborations with the musician Bill Frisell won them a United States Artists Fellowship in 2006. He lives on Vashon Island with his family and residual phenomena.<\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Bring Me Down<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/davidanddavidmusic\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">David Baerwald<\/a>, used with permission of the artist. The conversation was recorded at the Bethesda North Marriott on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=URDAV7Z2QAHX4UAB\">Blue enCORE 200 Microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4WKYIFHCCL6N44BR\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> digital recorder. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000SOYOTQ\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000SOYOTQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=04f89e1b44161aff17be7ee9479f6d64\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000SOYOTQ\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003VZG550\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B003VZG550&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=M2DKYCZ52E6ZFUA3\">Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2&#215;2 USB Recording Interface<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VZG550\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Photos of Jim by me.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show #192: Jim Woodring &#8220;I have something to live for in the goal of producing this long, fascinating, convoluted, loop-de-loop, metaphysical story arc. 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