{"id":9962,"date":"2016-10-26T14:37:21","date_gmt":"2016-10-26T18:37:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?p=9962"},"modified":"2017-10-08T23:16:15","modified_gmt":"2017-10-09T03:16:15","slug":"episode-191-ben-katchor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-191-ben-katchor","title":{"rendered":"Episode 191 &#8211; Ben Katchor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.drawnandquarterly.com\/cheap-novelties\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9964\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-191-ben-katchor\/cheapnovelties-casewrap\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/CHEAPNOVELTIES.casewrap.jpg?fit=1000%2C795\" data-orig-size=\"1000,795\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"cheapnovelties-casewrap\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/CHEAPNOVELTIES.casewrap.jpg?fit=525%2C417\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9964 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/CHEAPNOVELTIES.casewrap.jpg?resize=525%2C417\" alt=\"cheapnovelties-casewrap\" width=\"525\" height=\"417\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/CHEAPNOVELTIES.casewrap.jpg?resize=620%2C493 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/CHEAPNOVELTIES.casewrap.jpg?resize=440%2C350 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/CHEAPNOVELTIES.casewrap.jpg?resize=768%2C611 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/CHEAPNOVELTIES.casewrap.jpg?w=1000 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Memories Show #191: Ben Katchor<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_743\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9962-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/?powerpress_pinw=9962-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4itPQhel9GzH3WK2iXr4Zw\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Interviews\/The-Virtual-Memories-Show-p1091071\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/feed\/podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;How can you keep experimenting within your own work? When they say people reinvent themselves, they just mean they put on new clothes or something.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/katchor.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ben Katchor<\/a> rejoins the show to talk about the 25th anniversary edition of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770462635\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770462635&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=1f6c1b539f0f0a73722590fc246c0a5f\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cheap Novelties: The Pleasures of Urban Decay<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770462635\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> (Drawn &amp; Quarterly)! We talk about those aforementioned pleasures, the boredom of the modern flaneur, his evolution from genre fandom to &#8220;literary comics&#8221; (my awful term, not his), the danger in comics becoming over-academic, the challenges of writing a world history, and more!\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Give it a listen!<\/a> And go buy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770462635\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770462635&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=1f6c1b539f0f0a73722590fc246c0a5f\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cheap Novelties<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770462635\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;You spend the first 20 years of your life figuring out how the culture works, another 20 years figuring out how to make a living in that culture, and maybe the last part you&#8217;re in oblivion, saying, &#8216;What did I do?'&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_744\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-9962-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\">http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" 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class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/subscribe-to-podcast\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/katchor.com\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9967\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-191-ben-katchor\/katchorbykeetjaallard\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchorbykeetjaallard.jpg?fit=749%2C499\" data-orig-size=\"749,499\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"katchorbykeetjaallard\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchorbykeetjaallard.jpg?fit=525%2C350\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-9967 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchorbykeetjaallard.jpg?resize=525%2C350\" alt=\"katchorbykeetjaallard\" width=\"525\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchorbykeetjaallard.jpg?resize=620%2C413 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchorbykeetjaallard.jpg?resize=440%2C293 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchorbykeetjaallard.jpg?w=749 749w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We also get into the tedium of the latest iteration of New York City, the experience of capitalism&#8217;s end-game, why his comics are a product of a unique moment, his discovery of Undergrounds, the challenges of making anything new, how he found a readership that isn&#8217;t interested in comics, and more! <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Now go listen to the show!<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;All these people who weren&#8217;t born or were babies when Cheap Novelties came out, now they&#8217;re going to look at it and say, &#8216;What does this mean? How does this even relate to us?'&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/virtualmemories\/Episode_191_-_Ben_Katchor.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Enjoy the conversation!<\/a>\u00a0Then check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-archive\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the archives<\/a>\u00a0for more great episodes! You might like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-visible-cities\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ben Katchor<\/a> (2013)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-slipping-the-noose-of-the-topical\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Phillip Lopate<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-haste-ye-back\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Seth<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-141-francoise-mouly\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Francoise Mouly<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/podcast-the-guy-who-drew-the-liver-spots\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Drew Friedman<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Follow <em>The Virtual Memories Show<\/em> on <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-virtual-memories-show\/id531173075\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/vmspod\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/VirtualMemoriesShow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemoriespodcast.tumblr.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tumblr<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/virtualmemories.libsyn.com\/rss\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RSS<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>About our Guest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/katchor.com\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"9965\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-191-ben-katchor\/ben_katchor_close_up\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/ben_katchor_close_up.jpg?fit=500%2C505\" data-orig-size=\"500,505\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"ben_katchor_close_up\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/ben_katchor_close_up.jpg?fit=500%2C505\" class=\"alignright wp-image-9965\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/ben_katchor_close_up.jpg?resize=240%2C242\" alt=\"ben_katchor_close_up\" width=\"240\" height=\"242\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/ben_katchor_close_up.jpg?resize=436%2C440 436w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/ben_katchor_close_up.jpg?resize=170%2C170 170w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/ben_katchor_close_up.jpg?w=500 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/katchor.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ben Katchor<\/a> lives in New York, where he is an Associate Professor at Parsons School of Design\u2014The New School. As director of Parsons\u2019 Illustration program, he runs <a href=\"http:\/\/nycomicssymposium.wordpress.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The New York Comics &amp; Picture-story Symposium<\/a>, a weekly lecture series for the study of text-image work. He has been the recipient of both a Guggenheim Fellowship and a MacArthur Fellowship.<\/p>\n<p>Along with his long-running comic-strip work &#8212; <em>Julius Knipl, Real-Estate Photographer, The Cardboard Valise, Hotel &amp; Farm, The Jew of New York<\/em>, and a monthly strip for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.metropolismag.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Metropolis<\/a> magazine\u2014Katchor has also collaborated with musician Mark Mulcahy on a number of works for musical theatre. These works include <em>The Rosenbach Company<\/em> (a tragi-comedy about the life and times of Abe Rosenbach, the preeminent rare-book dealer of the 20th century); <em>The Slug Bearers of Kayrol Island, or, The Friends of Dr. Rushower<\/em>, an absurdist romance about the chemical emissions and addictive soft-drinks of a ruined tropical factory-island; <em>A Checkroom Romance<\/em>, about the culture and architecture of coat-checkrooms; and <em>Up From the Stacks<\/em>, about a page working the stacks of the New York Public Library in 1975. Katchor is the only cartoonist to have won an Obie for Best New American Work, for his libretto and drawings for <em>The Carbon Copy Building<\/em>, a collaboration with Bang on a Can. His TED Talk is titled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ted.com\/talks\/ben_katchor_s_comics_of_old_new_york?language=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Comics of Bygone New York<\/a>. He is on Twitter at <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/benkatchor\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">benkatchor<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>His books include the 25th anniversary edition of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1770462635\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1770462635&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=2180b0ea0e571b06f3c12ed2065354f2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cheap Novelties: The Pleasures of Urban Decay<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1770462635\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0307906906\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0307906906&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=a66edd425aeddcf8e0691369d17b6d08\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hand-Drying in America: And Other Stories<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0307906906\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0375421149\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0375421149&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=3a336beffd40fb0a3455456e9054976b\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Cardboard Valise<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0375421149\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0316482943\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0316482943&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=dad14e83482906f3617e6330bc2e7468\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Julius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer: Stories<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0316482943\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0375401059\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0375401059&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=a64f4e10c2ce5ac4db77047acfbd97e8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Julius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer: The Beauty Supply District<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0375401059\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0375700978\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0375700978&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=7ff40efe668455f5186a666d5ddd5814\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Jew of New York<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0375700978\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Credits: This episode\u2019s music is <\/em>Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Bring Me Down<em>\u00a0by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/davidanddavidmusic\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">David Baerwald<\/a>, used with permission of the artist. The conversation was recorded in the garden at the rear of the Columbus Metropolitan Library\u00a0on a pair of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002SQJLA4\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B002SQJLA4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=URDAV7Z2QAHX4UAB\">Blue enCORE 200 Microphones<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002SQJLA4\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00KCXMBES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=4WKYIFHCCL6N44BR\">Zoom H5<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00KCXMBES\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> digital recorder. I recorded the intro and outro on a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B000SOYOTQ\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000SOYOTQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=04f89e1b44161aff17be7ee9479f6d64\">Heil PR-40 Dynamic Studio Recording Microphone<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000SOYOTQ\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> feeding into a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B004MQSV04\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B004MQSV04&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=ca3044eba7760c32f829e3ee5c269d72\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cloud Microphones Cloudlifter CL-1<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=am2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B004MQSV04\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/> and then into a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003VZG550\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B003VZG550&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=virtualmemories-20&amp;linkId=M2DKYCZ52E6ZFUA3\">Mackie Onyx Blackjack 2&#215;2 USB Recording Interface<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=virtualmemories-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B003VZG550\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/>. Photo of Mr. Katchor at his drawing desk by Keetja Allard, photo from\u00a0his Twitter avatar by\u00a0???.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Virtual Memories Show #191: Ben Katchor &#8220;How can you keep experimenting within your own work? When they say people reinvent themselves, they just mean they put on new clothes or something.&#8221; Ben Katchor rejoins the show to talk about the 25th anniversary edition of Cheap Novelties: The Pleasures of Urban Decay (Drawn &amp; Quarterly)! We &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-191-ben-katchor\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Episode 191 &#8211; Ben Katchor&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":true,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[25,22,26,4,1183,18,19],"tags":[251,3840,4503,4502,3539,993,1430,1359,4504],"class_list":["post-9962","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-architecture","category-art","category-comics","category-literature","category-podcasts","category-politics-implicit","category-urban-issues","tag-ben-katchor","tag-chester-gould","tag-cxc","tag-drawn-and-quarterly","tag-harold-gray","tag-jules-feiffer","tag-lynda-barry","tag-matt-groening","tag-russ-smith"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4C7K-2AG","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":12940,"url":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/episode-365-ben-katchor","url_meta":{"origin":9962,"position":0},"title":"Episode 365 &#8211; Ben Katchor","author":"Gil","date":"March 9, 2020","format":"audio","excerpt":"Virtual Memories Show 365: Ben Katchor \"A dairy restaurant feels to me like an urban, walled Garden of Eden, but it's in this world, so it gets trapped in the doings of this world.\" The great cartoonist Ben Katchor rejoins the show to talk about his brand-new book, The Dairy\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Architecture&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Architecture","link":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/category\/architecture"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchor2020comp.jpg?fit=1200%2C510&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchor2020comp.jpg?fit=1200%2C510&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchor2020comp.jpg?fit=1200%2C510&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchor2020comp.jpg?fit=1200%2C510&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/wp-content\/uploads\/katchor2020comp.jpg?fit=1200%2C510&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":7559,"url":"http:\/\/chimeraobscura.com\/vm\/2013-podcast-countdown-4","url_meta":{"origin":9962,"position":1},"title":"2013 Podcast Countdown: #4","author":"Gil","date":"December 28, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"The podcast countdown continues! 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